Besides my home, where can I legally store my firearms?

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tonyhzhen

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I just realized that I can't store any firearms in my apartment after I've lived there for a couple of years. And the guy from the apartment office asked me to move my firearms out of the apartment in a few days, since the lease stated that no firearm is allowed in the apartment.

I don't think my gun club would allow anyone to store firearms in the club, and none of my friends have a RPAL. I have no idea where I can store my firearms and I don't want to lose them.

Does anyone have experience storing firearms legally outside of his/her home? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated as I'm really frustrated :(
 
Storage locker... you could even do another persons home with out a licence they just have to do the paper work saying that they wont have access to them I would recommend calling the CFO 1 800 731 4000 1 then 0 and asking them what you can do they have lots of options.. Guns can be stored almost anywhere they just need to know were and why... Just make sure you get all your transport and paper work in order before you move them...

and the better question is... how do they know? you might be able to fight it in court
 
as long as they have a trigger lock you can pretty much let anyone hold on to them that you TRUST.

oops i see RPAL, so i doubt that will work, i'd say tell him you took it elseware and just hide it haha, but yes good question how did they find out you have them in the first place?

if it were me i would tell them to suck a big fat rod and move to somewhere else
 
Whoa,

A. How does this guy know you have firearms? (bad opsec)

B. I am not sure if that portion of the lease is enforceable, I will check and get back to you by Friday.

C. You can store your non-restricteds anywhere as long as they are stored as per.

D. You can store your restricteds anywhere as long as you notify the Puzzle Palace (CFO) and they are stored as per.

E. In the mean time contact a legal clinic and ask. A legal clinic is lawyers who will man a phone and provide limited legal advice for free as a community service. Look in the phonebook for a legal clinic and ask a lawyer.

D. Don't know where you are but Bantario where I am has a rental tribunal, that may also be able to assist you.

Let me if you additional assistance.

Sam
 
You can't waive, contract or sell your charter right to liberty. And the presence of firearms in your apartment cause no damage to the owner or other tennants. Furthermore, you have done nothing criminal, so his actions are unfounded. He has no business in discriminating against you because of your social or polical veiws, including those on firearms ownership. He has no grounds for his restriction and this unreasonable clause of the rental agreement could void then entire contract, defaulting you to the standard one set by your province's tenancy branch.

I say "stick to your guns" as it were. If/When he serves you an eviction notive/notice to end tennancy, go to your provincial Residential Tenancy Branch. They are the equivalent of small claims court. Start an arbitration process for unlawful breach of tennancy contract. Starting the arbitration process will stop the eviction process until the process is complete. Alternately, you could move under protest and go through arbitration for moving costs under $25,000. (For more than that you have to go through supreme court, which costs $250 to start) Afterall, 99% of those who live in a rental appartment are going to move sooner or later. Might as well have it paid for by this shmuck. The cost to you is NOTHING. The cost to your landlord; much higher.

If you are in BC, here's the place to go for more info. (The BCRTB)
http://www.rto.gov.bc.ca/content/resolvingIssues/default.aspx#214
 
Unfortunately my apartment belongs to a university, although it is off campus. So I don't think I have a strong ground to argue my rights to keep the firearms in the apartment.

As to how did they know about the firearms, I believe my wife told the apartment office after we had a heated verbal "fight".

Anyway I think my best option is to move my firearms to a storage locker as I can't move at the moment. Does anyone know if I need to notify the storage facility that I will store firearms?
 
BabySeal said:
You can't waive, contract or sell your charter right to liberty. And the presence of firearms in your apartment cause no damage to the owner or other tennants. Furthermore, you have done nothing criminal, so his actions are unfounded. He has no business in discriminating against you because of your social or polical veiws, including those on firearms ownership. He has no grounds for his restriction and this unreasonable clause of the rental agreement could void then entire contract, defaulting you to the standard one set by your province's tenancy branch.

I say "stick to your guns" as it were. If/When he serves you an eviction notive/notice to end tennancy, go to your provincial Residential Tenancy Branch. They are the equivalent of small claims court. Start an arbitration process for unlawful breach of tennancy contract. Starting the arbitration process will stop the eviction process until the process is complete. Alternately, you could move under protest and go through arbitration for moving costs under $25,000. (For more than that you have to go through supreme court, which costs $250 to start) Afterall, 99% of those who live in a rental appartment are going to move sooner or later. Might as well have it paid for by this shmuck. The cost to you is NOTHING. The cost to your landlord; much higher.

If you are in BC, here's the place to go for more info. (The BCRTB)
http://www.rto.gov.bc.ca/content/resolvingIssues/default.aspx#214
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Is a lease not a voluntary contract? And by signing it has the individual not agreed to the terms and conditions specified?

"Heated verbal fight". Its fortunate that only the housing office was involved. You might not have any guns to worry about moving.

Call the CFO, find out what storage options would be acceptable. You are going to need an ATT to get them into storage. And likely an ATT to get them out of storage.

Many businesses are licenced for storage. Might be easier and cheaper than a storage facility.
 
tiriaq said:
Is a lease not a voluntary contract? And by signing it has the individual not agreed to the terms and conditions specified?

"Heated verbal fight". Its fortunate that only the housing office was involved. You might not have any guns to worry about moving.

Call the CFO, find out what storage options would be acceptable. You are going to need an ATT to get them into storage. And likely an ATT to get them out of storage.

Many businesses are licenced for storage. Might be easier and cheaper than a storage facility.
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Does anyone happen to know which businesses in Toronto are licensed for storage? In the meantime, I'll call the CFO.
 
tonyhzhen said:
Does anyone happen to know which businesses in Toronto are licensed for storage? In the meantime, I'll call the CFO.
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doesn't have to be licensed.... Like I said you can store them in anyone home who is willing to hold them even if they don't have a pal they just can't have the key to the safe and have to sign paper work saying that you and they agree that the owner of the home wont have access because they don't have that class of liences. You can even do this with prohib firearms ie they have 12.6 other person doesn't 12.2, 12.3, 12.5 ect.. You can store firearms anywhere they are secure thats it.. I even know people that rent a storage locker to store there firearms because the wife ect doesn't want them around the kids. You only have to make sure that if it's a storage locker that they don't have a no firearms policy..

Don't try over thinking it.. you can store firearms anywhere in Canada as long as they are locked up... you could legally store it in a bank for example if they would let you and do the paper work ect. It would be legal its just paper work..
 
tiriaq said:
Is a lease not a voluntary contract? And by signing it has the individual not agreed to the terms and conditions specified?
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Re-read my first post or look into it yourself if you do not believe me. CGN is not the best place to go for legal advice.

What you are looking for is information on contract law, specifically to do with unenforceable contracts and breach of contract. There is also much common law on the subject.

If the OP lacks the nerve to make an issue about it then there isn't much point in discussing it though. You can lead a horse to water... Sadly, that is the case far to often. People's rights are infringed and nobody does anything about it. This leads to ever more infringements and then at some point people wonder how things got so bad and why nobody did anything. By then its too late.

Nobody can do this for you, with the exception of you hiring a lawyer to do it for you. (Which you do not need to do)

But I see why you wouldnt want to fight. Isnt Toronto already pretty much a lost cause? Soon you wont be able to say the word "gun" within 100km of the place. Nothing wrong with that right? You could just sell your guns:nest:
 
I found a self storage facility that allows storing firearms. But the sad thing is that when I called the CFO for an ATT, I was told that I can't store firearms in a self storage locker, even if the self storage facility allows that.

According to the CFO, I can only store firearms either in a licensed business, the residence of a people who has the license, or a police station. When I asked the lady from CFO which businesses in Toronto are licensed, she said she can't tell me about that and I have to find them by myself, although she told me it's better to store my firearms in a licensed business rather than a police station :p
 
DO NOT STORE YOUR GUNS ELSEWHERE... Not yet...

Take the above advice from SAM FISHER... Seek free legal advice from a local LAWYER, not CGN.

Tenancy laws vary slightly from Province to Province, check with someone who knows your areas laws...

* BTW, most ranges have storage for FULL-MEMBERS ONLY (usually a 2-gun max, associate members are not applicable).

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Bulls**t. They can't tell you that you aren't allowed to store firearms there. Contact the Landlord and Tenant Board and file a complaint if necessary.

The landlord and tenant act is the law. Lots of landlords try and put stipulations into their lease agreements that certainly are not allowed. Contact the landlord and tenant board, speak to them.
 
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