Best backpacking cartridge?

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The 'best backpacking rifle' thread got me thinking about which cartridge chambering would be most suitable regardless of rifle.

I always thought the .357 magnum/.38 special would be the best backpacking cartridge with the .44 magnum a bit behind, but have read others who say a .22 Magnum or LR would be better.

What are your thoughts and why?
 
Personally I use a 454/45 colt gun so I'm more partial to the 44 mag/44 special.

I'd say that the 22 cal rifles are preferred for some under the assumption that when backpacking you want a light gun with light ammo for taking small game only. While a gun in a larger caliber may be the same weight, ammunition is far heavier regardless of what you do.
 
My initial reaction towards the question was that less weight per round equals more rounds one can carry given a certain weight of ammo.

That has some merit, however it depends on what you want to do with your gun when you are out hiking.

How many rounds do you need according to what you want to do?

Hunting?
Plinking?
Protection? (from real or percieved threats)
All of the above?

Pick the gun you want to carry and use the experience to figure out what works for you.
 
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well after a little talk on this fourm with some fellow cgn i have decided the 44 mag i prebably the best to go with. a pistol caliber carbine is a great gun to have backpacking. 357 will also work.
 
I used to be an avid day hiker, with an occasional one/two overnight. In response to the OP's question, I do not think it is a one size fit's all answer.

It all depends on the area you are hiking in. In some cases a little varmint plinker like a 22 mag. may be all that is required.

In areas where grizzly's abound (yup, used to frequent the Yukon) a 44 mag is a nice noisemaker and has some bite to backup it's bark, but I always preferred the security and heavy punch of a shorty 870 12 gauge or 30-30 with 170's. They were both about 5 to 7ish pounds.

The best is the tried and true bell and lot's of noise so there is no surprises. Unless you are carrying the rifle shotgun in hand, tucked away in backpack is not going to be of any use to you when you surprise ol' papa bear in a densely covered area. I am always mindful to look for sign (scat, tracks, etc.) and be aware of the surroundings.

In most of the tense or harrowing situations I was in, it was not the four legged animals to be wary of, but the two legged variety zooming the hillsides with trikes, quads, 4 x 4's - lotsa booze and rifles. It's against the law to shoot at those critters.
 
Why? Is this too close to a topic about rifles? Should it be moved to reloading?

Mods: apologies if I've posted something wrong. EDIT: I guess it could be moved to Ammo?

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You will find any of the threads that talk about backpacking will go into alot of detail about use of the rifle and then into bullet choices/cartridge selection & people's personal experiences and perspectives.

Like Moose Masher said:

That has some merit, however it depends on what you want to do with your gun when you are out hiking.
How many rounds do you need according to what you want to do?

Hunting?
Plinking?
Protection? (from real or percieved threats)
All of the above?

Do you need to target shoot & hit a squirrel or two?, kill racoons that get into food?, scare/kill coyotes that surround you?, drop a wolf/pack that comes for you?, or keep the bears/cougars/bull moose away?

Do a search for backpacking or bear defence and you will get extensive discussions on calibre's, rifle weights, useability, etc, etc. :)
 
This has been discussed many times before and it makes the most sense to have a 20g single shot with 22lr adapters. 20guage, for some odd reason, seems to play nicer with adapters than 12g. Some speculate it has to do with the thinness but who knows for sure. I find it's hard to get POI with 12g / 22lr adapters but with 20g it just works. The H&R Tamer will break down into a backpack easily, and it's $159.00 at WSS with a nickel finish. That's the backpacking / survivalist / do everything gun. I was using a Savage 24 combo gun but I'm selling mine in 357/20 and getting a Tamer

Some people may recommend going with the 410, or even 22lr / 410 combo. The second you see that, ignore everything they say, do the same if they mention 357magnum or other pistol cartridges. What you want is one large, hard hitting round, that's commonly available wherever and a whackload of smaller ammo. You can pack along your pistol cartridges with adapters, it doesn't really make any sense when you have a 20g, but if it makes you feel better. What you really don't want is a whack of heavy 150-230g pistol cartridges that add a bunch of weight, and can only be used on medium sized game or larger, but don't have the sheer stopping power of a 20g slug. 44magnum isn't bad, but once again, it's not super common and it's heavy. You could use it as a substitute for 20g slugs but how will you shoot 22lr.

The other thing to consider is the durability of the gun. A single shot 20g is as reliable as it gets, and the fact that it takes down into a 19 inch long package gives it the edge over bolt guns. Keep in mind that a 7/8th OZ slug out of a 20g is a 382g projectile going pretty fast, which is great stopping power.

If you want heavier ammo, you can go with 12g, but make sure you do the tests with the adapters because I have found the accuracy to be terrible. It's not just myself, articles that I have read show that I'm not alone and that the 20g just seems more accurate. If someone knows why this is, it would be nice to know lol

EDIT: One thing I forgot to add, there's also a few people who favour taking only a 22lr rifle. I've done this before with an AR7 and bearspray, works well. You basically leave it taken down until you come across a grouse or squirrel. Usually those animals are so stupid they will stay put until you've quietly assembled the gun and killed them. I got 4 grouse last year this way in one day while walking around some backtrails I found in the middle of nowhere. There are a lot of AR7 haters that exist, and I understand why, but it fits the niche that Henry markets the gun for and it has never let me down. I've only owned it for 2 years though, we'll see what happens 10 years from now, my guess is that it'll still be fine.
 
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