best black rifle $1500 or less

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in the next week i'm picking up something new, just trying to decide what.
so far i'm leaning towards a cz858, but still not sure.

what scary black rifle,non-rest.,not planning to use it for hunting,$1500 or less would you recommend?
 
Norinco 311 and Vz-58 are good - with money left over for goodies. I have owned both and they are good value - no malfunctions.

EDIT: Whoops didn't read your full post - both are restricted...858 it is!
 
if you got 15 hundred wait and save the rest and get a swiss arms classic green. or get a 858 and 2 crates of ammo.
 
both restricted though arent they?
i'd love one eventually,saw one up close and personal a few weeks ago and i drooled, but for that much cash i think i'd wait til i found an m78
 
CZ858, and AR180B. Those are you're only choices.

Broaden the criteria a bit and you could look at the M305, SKS, and dare I say even the Mini-14.
 
i'm willing to broaden somewhat, as long as it stays in the non-restricted class.
i was considering the 180b, i've been following your faq thread on it.
for the mini-14 i'll wait until the heavier barreled is available (is it yet?)
got the sks covered, unless i can find a yugo or something

edit to add- got some interest in the rx4 but i haven't heard a peep about it, cost or when wolverine will actually have it or anyone else for that matter
 
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markl said:
in the next week i'm picking up something new, just trying to decide what.
so far i'm leaning towards a cz858, but still not sure.

what scary black rifle,non-rest.,not planning to use it for hunting,$1500 or less would you recommend?
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CZ858.

Best bang for the buck, Wolverine just got a new shipment in. 650.00 I believe.
 
Best Black Rifle <$1500 = AR15
Best Non-Restricted in same category IMO = AR180B

CZ858 is cool, but to me it is still a little "rough" if that makes any sense (I like my parts to interchange perfectly and my mags to drop free).
 
If you get the CZ858 & the AR180b you would have got the best out of two calibers 7.62mm X39 (Russian) & 5.56mm Nato. Both guns are non restricted.
The CZ is under $700 & comes with cleaning kit cool four of 30 / 5 banana mags, sling, etc. The package is a great value for the money.

The AR is about $1100 I think and I don't know what comes with them.

They are both piston driven and reliable. If you get your hands on surplus ammo you're laughing 1150 rounds for $170<> .
 
CZ858, and AR180B

Armedsask said:
CZ858, and AR180B. Those are you're only choices.

Broaden the criteria a bit and you could look at the M305, SKS, and dare I say even the Mini-14.
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+2 I've bought both from wolverinesupplies.com though I'm still waiting for the AR180B.

The original 12.x laws were very "smart" in the way they banned handguns. And by smart I mean they did a good job of covering their bases to blanket ban as many guns as possible. But very dumb in the way they banned rifles, essentially banning them soley by name. Since time moves on new guns with new names come out and they are non restricted. Yay!

Dr.Chris
 
Dr.Chris said:
+2 I've bought both from wolverinesupplies.com though I'm still waiting for the AR180B.

The original 12.x laws were very "smart" in the way they banned handguns. And by smart I mean they did a good job of covering their bases to blanket ban as many guns as possible. But very dumb in the way they banned rifles, essentially banning them soley by name. Since time moves on new guns with new names come out and they are non restricted. Yay!

Dr.Chris
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Shshshshsh ;) don't go there you never know what they were dreaming last night.
 
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