Best price for a tikka t-3 varmint or savage precision varminter

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I am looking for a 223 with a fast twist for heavier weight bullets. I am wondering where the cheapest place to get either a t-3 varmint or precision varminter. Or if there is another 223 with a fast twist that I should be looking at. Also does anyone have a preference between these rifles.

Finally does a heavy barrel make for a more accurate rifle if you allow the barrel to cool between shots.
 
I am looking for a 223 with a fast twist for heavier weight bullets. I am wondering where the cheapest place to get either a t-3 varmint or precision varminter.
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Or if there is another 223 with a fast twist that I should be looking at. Also does anyone have a preference between these rifles.
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My personal preference is the Tikka. I have owned several and they have all been extremely accurate guns.

Finally does a heavy barrel make for a more accurate rifle if you allow the barrel to cool between shots.
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Heavy barrels are a necessity if you plan to use the rifle for shooting anything more than two or three rounds. Sporter contour barrels get too hot fast. Warping is a potential problem, but more so with the type of button and hammer forged barrels on factory guns. Bigger is better. Stay away from fluting.

This won't be your last rifle, just pick the one you like better and have fun with it.
 
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My personal preference is the Tikka. I have owned several and they have all been extremely accurate guns.



Heavy barrels are a necessity if you plan to use the rifle for shooting anything more than two or three rounds. Sporter contour barrels get too hot fast. Warping is a potential problem, but more so with the type of button and hammer forged barrels on factory guns. Bigger is better. Stay away from fluting.
This won't be your last rifle, just pick the one you like better and have fun with it.
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Why for cuz?
 
Fluting is a bad idea on any hammer forged or button rifled barrel. They are chock a block full of latent stresses, fluting is just another inconsistent variable when you introduce barrel heating.
 
Ellwood Epps, Wholesale Sports, yes even P&D all have similar prices on the Tikka's. I have owned many Tikka Varmint rifles over the years. They group better than I can hold 'em. Have always handloaded for them, but recently decided to try some cheap 45gr ones from Wallmart, got 3/8 inch groups in my 22/250. Just think, I can buy 3 Tikkas for the price of one HS Precision. More is always better.
 
I've had just as much luck with mine. I had two Tikka Tacticals in 308 that were basically quarter minute guns with hand loads. Every Tiikka I have ever owned was as good as cutom for accuracy. I've never seen a bad one... I'm sure they're out there, but my luck has been extremely good.
 
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Fluting is a bad idea on any hammer forged or button rifled barrel. They are chock a block full of latent stresses, fluting is just another inconsistent variable when you introduce barrel heating.
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The fluting on factory rifles is so shallow it is really cosmetic.

Gives them an attractive feature they can endow with all manner of superior benefits. I love the 'makes the barrel more rigid' claim.

I sincerely doubt a factory fluted barrel will warp anymore then an unfluted barrel.

And yes, I am saying that a factory rifle will likely warp.

To the OP, if this is a rifle you want to keep as original, then go TIKKA. I have been very impressed with those that I have seen, shot and worked on.

If you want the option to modify easily, then go Savage. Definitely bed the action in whatever stock you get and it will be a decent shooter. A bit of work to adjust the bolt timing and it will handle and function like a....

Tikka :dancingbanana:

Swap the barrel with a quality prefit, and it will shoot very very well.

Jerry
 
Tikka T3

It appears there may be an exception with the Tikka T3 Varminter chambered for the .223. A few years ago, at my recommendation, a friend purchased one. It shot poorly giving 1.5 to 2 inch groups @ 100 with handloads. I tried to help with some load development but no luck. Stoeger Canada replaced the rifle however the poor groups continued with the new rifle. The strange thing was it shot a bit better with lighter bullets in spite of its fast barrel twist. We never got either rifle to shoot well. About this same time another gunnuter reported similar results with his T3 chambered for the .223.

This is contrary to my experience with all other Tikka rifles and I have seen many. As an example two local shooters have T3 Varminters in 7mm Rem Mag. Those two rifles compete in our annual 1000M shoot and usually win the event beating many custom rifles costing 3 to 4 times their price. These guys are exprienced long distance shooters but they couldn't compete if their rifles did not perform.

Do all Tikka T3 Varminters in .223 have this problem? I don't know but would like to hear from other T3 owners about their .223 Varminters - good or bad. I will continue to recommend T3 rifles in all calibers - except for the .223 until I hear otherwise

Regards

Aubrey
 
The best Tikka rifles I had were the model 55 and 65's. With 22 inch barrels I could load the 270, 7mm magnum amd 300 Win Mag to within 100 to 200 fps slower than the Weatherby mags. I also had the varmint ones in 17, 22/250, and 243.All would shoot 1/2 to 3/4 MOA and the different bullet weights would shoot within 1/2 to 1 inch of each other and vertically at that. I was able to carry light to heavy bullets and hunt varmints to big game. So I figured I could sell them and move up to the newer models. Big mistake.The next models of Tikka's were not as consistent and so I never bought any more until the T3's came out. I now have 6 of these and am buying back 55's and 65's at gunshows at premium prices of course. My only complaint is the Optilok rings and bases are too expensive. Those old 55's and 65's used to come with indestructible rings. Someone told me that Tikka still supplies rings with the rifle in US markets, but the Canadian Distributors opted out so that they could make more money by selling the rings separately.
 
I sure would like to get my hands on a Tikka Master Sporter,, thinking of getting one built, never felt a more comfortable stock.
 
I have heard of some having problems with the T3's in 270WSM. I have recently started buying Savage, one Model 12 in 204, gives 3/8 groups with factory ammo, and 12F in 6.5/284 which I haven't shot yet as it takes forever to get the components for reloading. I wouldn't hesitate to buy the one with left port/ right port. The advantage with the Tikka's is they have detachable magazines.
 
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