best way to get restricted license

daBear said:
Sorry to beak off but I just see all these posts about how to shortcut the system to get a restricted and nobody has mentioned anything about practical training. I have seen too many classes with folks who have had little or no prior training and altho they scare the poop outa me I can applaud their efforts in seeking hands on help. Somebody with no prior hands on instruction who just reads the book and decides to simply challenge is not trained. I for one don't want to be near him or his buddies unless they are genuinely seeking some of instructional assistance.:eek: Ask me and I will gladly help you if you want to know but dont stand there and start blasting cuz its cool!!
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No flame here, daBear, I agree with you 100%. That's what I just said on the previous page, but mine was a little more watered down.
 
Having been an instructor for almost 3 years now all I can say is this... The courses and the tests are a joke. There is very little in regards to safety being taught. Its quite difficult to instruct a new shooter on all the minute details in regards to handling multiple styles of firearm as well as maintain safe handling practices. There is simply too much information and practical hands on knowledge to be condensed into a manual without training aids..(DEWATS or functioning guns for starters).

I would encourage any new shooters to visit their local range with an experienced friend or possibly someone from this forum for the first time after receiving their PAL. As I mentioned, there is simply no way the book or the course can cover all topics and all scenarios. I feel that the course is a starting point to becoming a responsible firearms owner, not the end point.

CF
 
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daBear said:
Everybody is so helpful in showing people with no practical experience how to challenge the test and get a restricted. Doesnt this go against all we have been saying about responsible ownership:confused: ? Sure the course/test is a pain in the parts but I would sure like to know that yahoo standing next to me on the range has had some practical experience not just what he has read in a book. I mean really, should we not be encouraging folks new to the sport to learn safe handling not just thru a book but in actual hands on with a responsible owner who is well versed in the safety aspects??
Sorry to beak off but I just see all these posts about how to shortcut the system to get a restricted and nobody has mentioned anything about practical training. I have seen too many classes with folks who have had little or no prior training and altho they scare the poop outa me I can applaud their efforts in seeking hands on help. Somebody with no prior hands on instruction who just reads the book and decides to simply challenge is not trained. I for one don't want to be near him or his buddies unless they are genuinely seeking some of instructional assistance.:eek: Ask me and I will gladly help you if you want to know but dont stand there and start blasting cuz its cool!!
Probably gonna get flamed, but all I ask is that we all think about this for a moment. Just to clarify, I am referring to those with no prior experience or instruction in arms handling..That my friends can be anybody choosing to read this thread..:rolleyes:
There u have it..I am off my soapbox. Flame me if u wish, but somebody had to say it.
Cheers guys
dB :)
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I tend to agree with your comments. before my envolvement and my exam for the restricted and owning handguns I asked a few experienced guys to walk me through the practical side at the range under live fire. I got comfortable with the guns, be it revolvers and pistols. After about 6 months and several thousand rounds and many types of handguns, I was ready to take the step to ownership.
Its good to walk before you start running the race.
 
If you are a newbie to restricted you should have some experience or take the full course...if you are comfortable and experienced, challenge it...
 
The training comes when an individual joins a gun club. Personaly, when I joined, I had about 12 lessons out with instructors, plus another practical test before I was able to go out to the range myself. As a matter of fact, it was then and only then that I was able to get my ATT. There is no way enough training for restricted handguns could be performed in one day anyway. Especially when you factor in that there is about 12 people in one class during one day. Training occurs on a one on one basis, like I said, at the range. That's my 2 cents....
 
Training vs. Regulation

alexlacelle said:
I had about 12 lessons out with instructors, plus another practical test before I was able to go out to the range myself (or) get my ATT
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While I'm all for training, I'm against the incredible number of hoops one must jump through in order to actually own and fire a .22 pistol IN ONTARIO.
As a prescription for killing a sport, consider this: The daunting prospect of an individual (especially a female) going through the guv'mint protocols, then the old boy network at a club for months and months.

Interesting that our safety record out West appears to be at least comparable to Ontario, given that here you can join clubs fresh out of the PAL course by paying money at a gas station or sporting goods store, then showing up and plinking.
 
Pontcanna,
I agree that women tend to have a harder time integrating into the sport. Being that shooting is generally a "man's" sport. However, most of the shooters I know (here in Alberta) are usually really nice guys, and have no issues with women shooting. As with any sport, there's always a small percentage of clowns who like to perpetuate the fears and myths involved with shooting.

CF
 
350 Mag said:
90% on practical...did not engage safety on Semi auto before I stored it
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I don't think I remember having to fidle with the safety doing my practical.

Shouldn't you always assume the gun is loaded which makes the safety redundant? :confused:
 
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