Bighorn Origin

madashell said:
Forgive my ignorance kthomas, but you're saying there's shouldered option for the Origin which is small shank barrel nut intended ? So basically it's the same idea as a 700 shouldered barrel, just with a smaller threaded shank ?
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There are companies making shouldered barrels for the Origin. Keystone, Altus and PVA are a couple off the top of my head.

You can have a shouldered barrel for the Origin at $550 out the door down here from some shops, with a variety of configurations. If I want a 23" 6BRA for example, they will do it.

The cool thing about the Origin is that it's receiving a lot of support from manufacturers and gunsmiths.

ETA: Proof also makes shouldered barrel pre-fits for the Origin https://proofresearch.com/barrels/bighorn-origin-pre-fit/
 
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Holy smokes this thread ran away fast with all the people showing their preference down the OPs throat. Leave the guy alone, great looking rifle. I am sure it'll shoot just as good as it looks! Keep using what works for you bud!
 
Rifle looks good. I just finished a similar one the only difference is I did it on a Nucleus action and a proof 24 inch carbon fiber barrel. At 100 it shot 5 rounds all touching with factory hornady ELD 140g so nothing wrong with barrel nut barrels
 
kthomas said:
As these actions get machined more precisely and held to tighter and tighter tolerances as we are seeing (such as Bighorn, Lone Peak, Impact, ARC, Terminus, Curtis, etc), there are more and more shouldered barrel options coming available with little to no wait times and at decent prices down in the US. Hopefully that happens in Canada as the market expands up there.

Barrel nuts have definitely fallen out of favor in the US with the plethora of shouldered barrel options available. You rarely see them now a days, as the benefits of BN's are fastly being overtaken by the new shouldered barrel options.

Options are always a great thing for the consumer, and as a Bighorn action owner, MartyK2500 has some. It's a great action, and I'll be following this thread to see how it works out for him. I think this project is going to turn out much more successfully than the Deadline one, based on some of his choices in components.
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I agree 100%, options are a good thing.
You want to put a prefit with a nut take package A, you want a shouldered that's precut for your action here's option B.
I read a few threads on SH, seems like precut shouldered are taking big steps in the precision rifle market.
I have a feeling that give it 4-5 years and Canada will have many options migrating from down south.

The deadline had potential to be honest, I was really disappointed when I learned what a 3rd lug pointing downwards involved.
As described in my past posts, I am far from a gunsmith, I am merely but a parts assembler that knows how to use proper gauges to make my projects safe to use.
A gunsmith would of worked around the constraints of that action to make it work properly.
But, it was a good learning experience, and I don't regret it as I now know what I want.

Trying to find factory ammo in a pinch before sunday so I can try that Origin/Manners/iBi mashup, seems like my test run may be delayed a week.

madashell said:
Forgive my ignorance kthomas, but you're saying there's shouldered option for the Origin which is small shank barrel nut intended ? So basically it's the same idea as a 700 shouldered barrel, just with a smaller threaded shank ?
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Hey, I did see a Savage 10TR with an ATRS shouldered barrel at the range a few weeks ago!
Whatever people want nowadays is possible, although not always logic.

kthomas said:
There are companies making shouldered barrels for the Origin. Keystone, Altus and PVA are a couple off the top of my head.

You can have a shouldered barrel for the Origin at $550 out the door down here from some shops, with a variety of configurations. If I want a 23" 6BRA for example, they will do it.

The cool thing about the Origin is that it's receiving a lot of support from manufacturers and gunsmiths.

ETA: Proof also makes shouldered barrel pre-fits for the Origin https://proofresearch.com/barrels/bighorn-origin-pre-fit/
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I am really stoked to see that kind of support for the Origin.
I initially chose it for it's Savage style bolt head (2 lugs), Savage barrel threads and R700 footprint, am starting to learn new perks and qualities the more I read on it, which is really cool as I already have it in hand!


twosmokinspades said:
Rifle looks good. I just finished a similar one the only difference is I did it on a Nucleus action and a proof 24 inch carbon fiber barrel. At 100 it shot 5 rounds all touching with factory hornady ELD 140g so nothing wrong with barrel nut barrels
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How much does your setup weigh all included?
Did you use a Manners stock?

Right now on a better scale, i'm at 14.5lbs with the Razor gen 2 in a spuhr and with an empty 12 round metal mag.
Which is lighter than my previous ESS build (18lbs)
 
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There's a few downsides to the Deadline that not even a gunsmith can negate. There's good reasons why they have never really caught on, much better options on the action market, such as your Bighorn Origin.

Glad you are excited about the action, it's a great action with some great features and for a great price. Plenty of people really happy with that action and it's growing in popularity and support.
 
Rifle is in the same manors stock. Rifle complete 12 pounds. Bushnell XTR 2 optic and bacis Atlas bipod. The Nucleus action is suprising heavy compared to a straight remington
 
Origin or the tenacity but I assume the defiance tenacity doesn’t accept prefit barrels like the bighorns do soooo in the trash bin she goes....lol.... my tl3 is super slick. I see they don’t make the tl3 with the np3 bolt coating anymore. Only dlc coatings now
 
Wonder why they dropped the np3 bolt coating though. Looks incredible and my action is very smooth and no wear on the bolt coating yet at all which is amazing. Nitriding or meloniting wears pretty quickly. Maybe it’s chesper to nitride than do np3? My volquartsen built 10/22 has a dlc bolt assembly and it looks like a black mirror smooth as glass. If that’s the same dlc finish used on the bighorns then I’d vote for dlc
 
Got all my stuff in from Jerry i’m pretty excited to try this out!
So far i am either lucky, or manufactures know their s***, or a bit of both,
As setting up my reload for this was painless.

1st up headspace,
PTG headspace gauge used for barrel install was 1.463’’ on hornady comparator,
My factory 0F lapua brass is 1.461-1.462’’, perfect!

Necks look clean and consistent at 13 thou, looks good not sure I’ll turn them yet.

Even the forster bullet seater was a coincidence, set as is out of the box my ammo was 15 thous too long before touching lands,
Not much work required in figuring anything.

To get back to the bighorn,
Firing pin and extractor we’re removed under 15 seconds.
Then the bolt had no tension whatsoever, so when seating bullets 1 thou at the time i found the perfect spot for lands touching quite easily.
Once done i reinstalled everything on the bolt under another minute, a real pleasure working with this action.

Loaded 12 dummy rounds in my MDT mag, this rifle feeds without the bullet nose ever touching the feedramp.
In life you got to appreciate when different parts from different manfs play together so nicely!
 
When the input is good quality components, so then are the results. You get what you pay for. With Bighorn, MDT, Lapua, etc, you are getting very quality components.

Excited to see how it shoots for you.
 
kthomas said:
Delete - decided to delete my unsolicited reloading advice.
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I had read it on time!
No worries talking about reloading and precision rifles go hand in hand!

Instead of turning, i may get a Forster honed die to reduce the amount of neck resizing.
Another fellow member here got me on Forster FLS with expander ball out + sinclair expanding die with 6.5 mandrel.
Looks like a good combo!
 
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