Bite the bullet on my RPAL

KidGlock

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It all began with finding out that the general public were still able to aquire handguns. I had been interested in them since i was a child. Now with the fact that i am middle aged and make a relativlely moderate wage and have no criminal background, i thought why not. Do the courses and see what happens. I may qualify for an rpal or i may not. Only my ability at remembering safety and basic hand to eye coordination will tell at this point. So i took the courses. And became hooked.

Simple common sense stuff it was after realizing you were using a potentially deadly weapon. Saftey was burnt into my skull and then i started to watch Hickok45. Well that didnt help. Now i was addicted. The results of the tests were in the high 90's. i have nothing to hide. Im not perfect. But im far from retarted.

The application was filled out and all required documents sent to our good old gun nut sorting center in mirimachi. It took a while but it did appear online and my referances were called. I instantly called in when i found out and my interview was done. The app was sent away for final approval and i was informed by the lady that pending final approval by the cfo the license will be issued. Etc etc etc

Was i all geared up you ask? Of course i was. As i am partial to glocks and have shot my share of ammo through a glock 17, i thought why not get a glock. So off i went and got a secure snazy gun case, slip on grip, tactical holster and a glock mag with 10 snap caps to practice loading so i dont look like a dunce at the range i also joined.

And then whilst waiting for final approval, the earth shook under my feet and the ground started to sink,

I am married. We have been seperated since 2008. Not legally nor divorced. This made no diference to my application as we were still in good terms with each other. She is american and i am canadian. The distance just didnt work. There was no segnificant breakdown of relationship. However i included her on the app pending thee fact if i didnt, they may find out and start asking some nasty questions. I told her i was applying. She had no issue.

Then the mother in law enter the scene.

During the final approval stage, the song has changed overnight from a melow tune of glee to one of utter dismal downbeats. Put simply the tune has changed and they threaten divorce and lawsuits. (For support) (im sure this is the inlaws idea and not the wifes)

Now i fear that if the cfo calls the wife "as they are required" when no signature from the spouse is given... The dream will be over before it begun.

Therefore unless by some magic of nature, i do get approved... I will be back.

But for now all i can see is all the tacticool stuff i purchased lately, ending up on the EE.

Live long and prosper :ar15:

The wife is american and lives in illinois

I am canadian and live in alberta
 
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Wow this is quite the story with some complicating circumstances..

Soo let me get this straight, basically if the CFO calls your wife, she will not say nice things about you which will cause you to be denied? Because of the in-laws she is going to say that she doesnt think you should own a firearm?

On a side-note kind of.. think you should make it official then and get a divorce if you aren't going to get together again, just makes things easier for situations like this I would think?

Just my .02 cents

Nick,
 
There are a few circumstances that i have not mentioned. The mother in law likes to pick up the phone and pretend shes the wife O.O

Its a twisted scenerio.
 
Keep it as a separation for now when you apply explain that you have been separated for five years and that your wife lives in another country . Unless you can make an Alberta to Illinois shot with a 9 mm she has nothing to fear from you or your guns .My Ex and I had a rocky divorce which she still harbours resentment towards me for , either the CFO never called or she spouted off so many tirades against me the cfo hung up and called her a bitter ##### and put it through anyway. or she did not actually feel threatened by me and just uses that as a veiled threat when she gets pissy ... The bottom line is the CFO will weigh the circumstances even if she says you are the devil incarnate.
 
KidGlock said:
There are a few circumstances that i have not mentioned. The mother in law likes to pick up the phone and pretend shes the wife O.O

Its a twisted scenerio.
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Isn't impersonating another person a crime in both Canada and the United States? Isn't slandering another person a crime in both countries as well?

I'd say, just to cover your bases, try calling the CFO, or going by their office on Jasper Ave, and explain the situation to them. Maybe double check that they'll ask for a specific person, rather than just Mrs.Whatever if your wife has gone back to using her maiden name. Who knows, maybe they'll catch the mother in law in a lie and throw the book at her.
 
I must commend you both on the excellent responses. One of my freinds who also has grandfathered also feels the same as you. The posative rsponses here from gun nutz are uplifting and my hope restored. Of course until the mother in law answers the phone and royally pile drives everything into smitherines :ar15:
 
"...if the cfo calls the wife..." Don't think they'll call out of country. Costs money. Don't think they're required to call an ex you don't live with either. The distance and time factor will very likely work for you as well. The mother-in-law doesn't get a say. The CFC/CPFO won't want to talk to her and won't let her give her opinion anyway.
"...impersonating another person..." Kind of depends on who she calls. If she calls the police and lies to them she's liable for a world of trouble.
 
sunray said:
"...if the cfo calls the wife..." Don't think they'll call out of country. Costs money. Don't think they're required to call an ex you don't live with either. The distance and time factor will very likely work for you as well. The mother-in-law doesn't get a say. The CFC/CPFO won't want to talk to her and won't let her give her opinion anyway.
"...impersonating another person..." Kind of depends on who she calls. If she calls the police and lies to them she's liable for a world of trouble.
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they are still married though.. not living together, but would still think the CFO would want to talk to the applicants marriage partner, regardless of living arrangements?
 
sunray said:
"...if the cfo calls the wife..." Don't think they'll call out of country. Costs money. Don't think they're required to call an ex you don't live with either. The distance and time factor will very likely work for you as well. The mother-in-law doesn't get a say. The CFC/CPFO won't want to talk to her and won't let her give her opinion anyway.
"...impersonating another person..." Kind of depends on who she calls. If she calls the police and lies to them she's liable for a world of trouble.
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WRONG !!!!!!!! My EX moved back to Florida.....they called and spent as she put it "short of an hour" asking questions etc......thank god at that time enough time had passed after the divorce and she played nice !!!
 
Makes you wonder why the hell does a grown up person needs the approval of another to have a license when you have 2 references to back you up :confused:

and btw in the US all you need is to be 21 and to have a clean mental health record and be a "good citizen" sigh!
 
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The whole thing is ironic. with the time its taking to do final approval, im almost sure that if they have called the wife, she wont answer or call back because its long distance. fml
 
So i got through to the CFO before they called the wife. Thank god i did cause thats who they were calling next. Turns out since i havnt been with her since 2008 and havnt lived with her in the past 6 years, i didnt even have to include her. The lady then approved the app on the phone and the license is now issued. Woooot :ar15:
 
NickVR said:
they are still married though.. not living together, but would still think the CFO would want to talk to the applicants marriage partner, regardless of living arrangements?
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They didn't bother to call my wife (then common law partner) or a single one of my references when I went RPAL.
 
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