Black badge course question...

Calum

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Is there anyone on Vancouver island, out here in BC that is offering the black badge course? :confused:

I'm not interested in competition, just wanting to learn some practical handgun skills.
 
My Black Badge course was a good weekend spent......you'll become even more familiar and comfortable using your firearm...and you'll participate is some fun drills...the EL Presidente is a good times and scored drill......I attended a few IPSC matches after I got the Black Badge ...but my mileage varied from some and I lost interest in the sport.....
 
You will love the BB course Calum. It opens up IPSC and IDPA and they are both way to much fun! I'm not big on competition either but I always have a blast! :)
 
The Black Badge course will only scratch the surface. Going to matches and competing is what will make you a better shooter.
 
Dragoon said:
The Black Badge course will only scratch the surface. Going to matches and competing is what will make you a better shooter.
especially when you can pass your black badge course and not shoot at all after your qualifing match (let's say for over 10 years) and as long as you kept paying your membership fees you're qualified to walk right on the field and compete..... shaking hands and all......but if you change to say IDPA, SASS, PPC, or Bullseye and come back after 4 years of not being an IPSC member you will have to re-take it all over again or prove very effectively that you can still shoot safe .

so moral of the story ... if you do take and pass ur Black Badge..... protect your investment .... keep ur membership current ( at least in Ontario).
 
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maxpig said:
especially when you can pass your black badge course and not shoot at all after your qualifing match (let's say for over 10 years) and as long as you kept paying your membership fees you're qualified to walk right on the field and compete..... shaking hands and all......but if you change to say IDPA and come back after 4 years of not being an IPSC member you will have to re-take it all over again.....



so moral of the story ... if you do take and pass ur Black Badge..... protect your investment .... keep ur membership current ( at least in Ontario).


Nope... Sorry... Not in BC.

You must compete in two Level 2 qualifiers per year to stay current. Not doing so requires recertification. Depending on the length away, you could be required to retake the BB course.
 
bc_shooter said:
Nope... Sorry... Not in BC.

You must compete in two Level 2 qualifiers per year to stay current. Not doing so requires recertification. Depending on the length away, you could be required to retake the BB course.
And you should be required shoot a match or two to remain current.... otherwise why bother with a safety course if all you need to remain a member in good standing is being current on ur fees and not having to participate.
 
maxpig said:
especially when you can pass your black badge course and not shoot at all after your qualifing match (let's say for over 10 years) and as long as you kept paying your membership fees you're qualified to walk right on the field and compete..... shaking hands and all......but if you change to say IDPA, SASS, PPC, or Bullseye and come back after 4 years of not being an IPSC member you will have to re-take it all over again or prove very effectively that you can still shoot safe .

so moral of the story ... if you do take and pass ur Black Badge..... protect your investment .... keep ur membership current ( at least in Ontario).

Sorry Max, not in Ontario either. You have 1 year to qualify or little longer with permission and supervision. Just went through this to get some qualified. Where have you been lately by the way? The league ended last week I have not seen you for a while.
 
ENSHOOTER said:
Sorry Max, not in Ontario either. You have 1 year to qualify or little longer with permission and supervision. Just went through this to get some qualified. Where have you been lately by the way? The league ended last week I have not seen you for a while.

Well I'm sure that there are cases of members who just pay every year (after they qualify)...and don't shoot matches...which is what I think Maxpig is referring to.

The problem is...it would be a rather sizable job to track the shotting habits of our 1,000 or so members...:eek:

Tracking memberships is easy...but doesn't cover the possibility of a loyal member who hasn't fired a round in x years from deciding to join the fun...

I'm not sure it's really an issue...and there are mechanisms to address shooters who need a refresher...but this doesn't happen in advance...but rather as a follow up.

Cheers
 
I agree the official ( much maligned these days it seems ) is the best judge during a course of fire weather someone is safe. If you are not safe then you get DQ'd.

I am not really sure about how you would track participation in a match yearly. I thought that years ago that is why we were all issued a number and the number was supposed to be incorporated into MSS and then every time we competed it would give us points on the level of the match. 1 equals a level 1 ECT. DQ some other code. The scoring person for the province keep track. End of the year would give us some concept of who was and was not playing and this would let us ask them why? Something like that. I am not the computer geek but I would think this would be possible.

However this would not solve the safety problems on the range. My experience is very seldom is it the inexperienced shooters who DQ's but rather the over confident ones.
 
ENSHOOTER said:
I agree the official ( much maligned these days it seems ) is the best judge during a course of fire weather someone is safe. If you are not safe then you get DQ'd.

I am not really sure about how you would track participation in a match yearly. I thought that years ago that is why we were all issued a number and the number was supposed to be incorporated into MSS and then every time we competed it would give us points on the level of the match. 1 equals a level 1 ECT. DQ some other code. The scoring person for the province keep track. End of the year would give us some concept of who was and was not playing and this would let us ask them why? Something like that. I am not the computer geek but I would think this would be possible.

However this would not solve the safety problems on the range. My experience is very seldom is it the inexperienced shooters who DQ's but rather the over confident ones.

its already being done .... very informally but it is just the same..... if you look at IPSC Ontario claasifier page.... you see class and number of matches.... if you have a class and a 0 it means you haven't shot a LvL II in 12 months... it doesn't however reflect Lvl I's ( Club level matches don't count since you don't need to be a member to shoot those)so there is the pitfall with that method.... but it could be done if we wanted too....oh well...


and loyal non shooting members are great.... they help out in setup and R.O.'ing scoring etc.... but in reference to B.B. course and safety aspect of handling a firearm during a COF (especially returning participants) it should be equal across the board....

if returning shooters who haven't maintained their membership for 3+ years ( again in Ontario) needs to prove they are qualified to shoot or retake B.B. then current members who haven't fired a shot in 3+ years should do the same.... logic here is they both took B.B. at one point and both have equal knowledge... only differece between the two groups is one kept paying fees...
 
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maxpig said:
if returning shooters who haven't maintained their membership for 3+ years ( again in Ontario) needs to prove they are qualified to shoot or retake B.B. then current members who haven't fired a shot in 3+ years should do the same....

I don't disagree...but the latter group (non shooting members) would be next to impossable to track...
 
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