Black Rifles And Low Temps

I may go to the range tommorrow with my m15 . I have it lubed with breakfree lubricant preservative . The forecast is -29 with the windchill .
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For any normal use, weather wont affect much. Where it does make a difference, it's when you fire a few hundred rds, then keep going in the snow, then soak it then fire a few more hundred rds and go on a few days and night.

From my personnal exprerience, with M 16 and other military type weapons the problems only started when exposed to extrem situation such as being expose to heavy snow followed by extreme hight temperature and followed again by extreme cold and snow without opportunities to clean her up. Cold itself is not much a problem. For extreme use, run it completely dry, no oil at all.
 
Tango said:
Anyone have feedback on miltec-1 in extreme cold conditions ?
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I exclusively use their 'oil' aka metal conditionner on my AR, I wipe it dry after applying some heat on metal parts to make it 'bond'. It's very important to wipe it dry, if not it'll jam on cold weather, aside that, it worked flawlessly. A few jams, but due to the ammo (some powders have bad behavior in really cold weather)
 
I ran my pe-90 in -12/-15 with no problems yesterday. I use a tiny amount of G37 after I clean her and it works great! Same with the krinker plinker...
 
y2k said:
what is standard procedure with out Armed Forces when up in the Artic?
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I think they get issued a different type of lubricant designed to withstand very cold weather without thickening too much.

... or they use the old trustworthy Lee-Enfields ... :D
 
CF issues Graphite Powder
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We used nothing at all when i went and it worked great for 2 weeks at minus 40 to -50. We have them sleep outside the tent and take her in only for cleaning. When you do take it inside, you have to wait until all condensation as stop completely and insure it'S completely dry again before it goes back out.
 
ijump said:
We used nothing at all when i went and it worked great for 2 weeks at minus 40 to -50. We have them sleep outside the tent and take her in only for cleaning. When you do take it inside, you have to wait until all condensation as stop completely and insure it'S completely dry again before it goes back out.
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After cleaning the rifle how many rounds did you fire before cleaning the rifle again ? Did you use any solvents when cleaning ?

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KevinB , whats your take on miltec-1 ? Is it a good weapons lube for operations in extreme cold or the sandbox ?


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After cleaning the rifle how many rounds did you fire before cleaning the rifle again ? Did you use any solvents when cleaning ?

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We dont clean it after a deternimed number of round but rather when the time is consider suitable. When we do use it it's usualy several magazine (3 to 5 30 rds mag) within a short period of time (within a few minutes) so from extreme cold to extremely hot and back to extreme cold. A total of approx a 1000 rds over two weeks. It's not a problem if you keep her dry. I did not use any solvent nor lubricant until we were back two weeks later. We simply used a small brush and clots to wipe the extra carbon accumulate from a field striped condition. Like mentioned in my previous post, When taken inside the tent, you have to wait a good 20 to 30 min until the condensation process is over. Avoid going from cold to warm and back to cold in a short period of time to avoid condensation to turn into ice. If you have to, operating the actions a few times shoult ensure everything is in working condition. I'm talking about gaz operated weapons here, i never tryed with blow back operated guns such as a 9mm pistol or smg's or small bore rifle but i would assume those possibly requier a little more attention.
 
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ijump said:
We dont clean it after a deternimed number of round but rather when the time is consider suitable. When we do use it it's usualy several magazine (3 to 5 30 rds mag) within a short period of time (within a few minutes) so from extreme cold to extremely hot and back to extreme cold. A total of approx a 1000 rds over two weeks. It's not a problem if you keep her dry. I did not use any solvent nor lubricant until we were back two weeks later. We simply used a small brush and clots to wipe the extra carbon accumulate from a field striped condition. Like mentioned in my previous post, When taken inside the tent, you have to wait a good 20 to 30 min until the condensation process is over. Avoid going from cold to warm and back to cold in a short period of time to avoid condensation to turn into ice. I'm talking about gaz operated weapons here, i never tryed with blow back operated guns such as a 9mm pistol or smg's or small bore rifle but i would assume those possibly requier a little more attention.
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When i was testing my rifle i would fire 30-50 rounds then let it sit 5-10 mins in the cold sask wind . Then i would fire 30-50 more let it sit 5-10 mins again. I did that till 300 rounds then i had problems . It was gumming up and freezing up .
Since your firing it dry does the carbon get baked on hard to the bolt ,carrier, gas tube etc ? Any harder than if you were using clp ? Do you see more wear from running it dry ? Thanks :D
 
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