Blackhawk Serpa for events?

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I will be getting my Rpal in the near future and now im looking into IPSC and ISPA events. Would a blackhawk Sportster serpa holster be compliant for both leagues? Thanks
 
Do not buy a Serpa!

There is several threads on the subject, but if you do some research using Google you will find many instructors, and their ranges banning these things. Their is argument about them leading to negligent discharges, locking when debris gets into the mechanism, breaking clips off, and just overall being a gimmicky cheap holster.

There are far better options for not much more money.
 
I use a Blackhawk CQC holster and it works fine, for IPSC or IDPA it should be fine, there's no reason to go to a retention holster fr either sport.
 
I don't understand why there are so many problems with the Serpa. I've been using one for years now and never had a problem with them. It's all about knowing your equipment and hoe to use it properly.
 
Katana said:
I don't understand why there are so many problems with the Serpa. I've been using one for years now and never had a problem with them. It's all about knowing your equipment and hoe to use it properly.
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Speed is almost as important as accuracy in IPSC therfore we use holster which can be draw faster. Nothing wrong with Serpa, except is bit slower.
 
Why? Besides the well-known issues with the Serpa, a retention holster is unnecessary for playing games. You can buy perfectly good holsters from Blade Tech (to name one example) that aren't expensive.
 
I would personally never use a Serpa... nor would I ever recommend one for IPSC;(especially for a beginner).

Come on out to Windsor Action Pistol Club on the 1st or 3rd Friday of the month after 6pm (its IPSC league night)... Let me know when you are going and I can bring a couple different alternatives to show you that would be much more suited to our sport; and just as cheap, if not cheaper.

Phil
 
I used to use a SERPA, I wouldn't recommend one now.

Far better holsters out there, for both the sport and the safety aspect.

Why use a holster that is inherently less safe than other holsters? However unlikely an AD is, this holster does increase the likelihood over other holsters. Use a Bladetech DOH or something similar instead.
 
Every single course I have been on where there was a handgun element to it the Serpa holster banned from use.

Any course I teach shall see the Serpa banned from use. Imagine the legal and insurance ramifications should a student/candidate drift a round into themselves or somebody else and the instructors were aware of the potential risk.
 
<http://idpaforum.yuku.com/topic/7803/Serpa-holster-safety-issues>

<http://pistol-training.com/archives/4926>

<http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?1569-Banning-the-SERPA&>

<http://www.wilsontacticaltraining.com/?p=326>
 
As been said by others most shooting schools in the US now ban the holster.

From my own limited experience wedgies seem to be the most common problem with the holster. Funny to watch but AD's in the leg would lose the "fun" side of it in a hurry.

If you intend to play IDPA/IPSC there are much better holsters out there with Blade Tech and Com Tec being the most popular. Buy a set-up that is IDPA legal. It will be IPSC legal as well. The reverse is not true as IDPA does not allow DOH designs. Practice one draw and you won't be at any disadvantage in either sport.

Take Care

Bob
 
yeah no need for that level of retention. i shoot with several folks who can draw from serpa lever 2 holsters just as fast as from a blade tech or uncle mikes. clearly unnecessary imho. as far as safety? i think that tex a**hole is the only idiot in history who has shot himself drawing from a serpa holster. its too bad he didn't shoot himself in the balls as to stop all potential of him fathering any retarded children.
 
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yeah no need for that level of retention. i shoot with several folks who can draw from serpa lever 2 holsters just as fast as from a blade tech or uncle mikes. clearly unnecessary imho. as far as safety? i think that tex a**hole is the only idiot in history who has shot himself drawing from a serpa holster. its too bad he didn't shoot himself in the balls as to stop all potential of him fathering any retarded children.
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That assumption would be wrong. There have been several incidents of competitors shooting themselves. The video is not an isolated incident.

Take Care

Bob
 
what i was getting at is shooting youself durring the drawstroke is not the holsters fault. its more of a not following safe gun handling issue. outside of "maximum overdrive" the gun has no mind of its own and will only go off when the trigger is pressed. IF your finger is out of the trigger guard until the muzzle is covering what you intend to destroy, you will never AD durring the draw stroke from any holster.
 
animalamidon said:
what i was getting at is shooting youself durring the drawstroke is not the holsters fault. its more of a not following safe gun handling issue. outside of "maximum overdrive" the gun has no mind of its own and will only go off when the trigger is pressed. IF your finger is out of the trigger guard until the muzzle is covering what you intend to destroy, you will never AD durring the draw stroke from any holster.
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Well that is true to a point. The problem is the Serpa release mechanism during the release can cause your finger to inadvertently slip into the trigger area and gun goes bang. From what I can gather when shooters push on the release they also squeeze their hand in the process. 1911 design pistols, as you have a manual safety. AS the hand squeezes down the shooters thumb releases the safety. The combination of the two events creates the situation for an AD. These incidents are not limited to novice shooters. To rely on what should happen vs what can and has happened is folly.

I am not saying what you stated isn't true but the reality is the design contributes to these AD's. The holsters are not the best holsters for playing IDPA or IPSC, aren't necessary for either sport and offer no advantage over a standard pouch holster made of leather or kydex. Some may have a need for the Serpa, most I suggest would be better off looking elsewhere.

Take Care

Bob
 
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