Blackhorn 209

I use it and love it. You can shoot all day without cleaning the first and the 50th will load and shoot the same. after you are done just clean up with hoppe's #9 DO NOT USE WATER BASE CLEANERS also use reg. 209 primers not the one made for 777 or other subs.
Me and my brother and friend have shot up almost 3 cans and never had a misfire. 120 gr's of blackhorn is equiv. to 150 of 777 depending on the gun and bullet, I use 85-100gr

used it last year 3 shots 3 deer 60 to 120 yards
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I bought some, and loaded 20 rounds of 38-40 with it just to try and see. Load table that they produce said something like 20 grains was a max load, so I ended up loading 18gr of the stuff, still filled the case to the bullet, but didn't compress much. They shot well, more smoke like a BP round, and half way between the smokeless thud to the BP THUD. Smelt a little different, but otherwise didn't leave any gooey mess or ultra dirty black crap in the gun.

Have to try some more, and load it into the 44WCF and 45 Colt to see how they perform. If they do well then I am going to move on and load some of the bigger rounds like 38-55, 45-70, and 45-75.

I read some guys tried it once and took the stuff back, but I think it has promise, more time on paper will tell.
 
Bought a few cans of it for my .40 70 (Martini Henry), have load data to nurture as well...

...embarrassingly enough though, haven't had time to make it to the range yet. :bangHead:

Most reports/reviews I've come across are singing it's accolades, of course you can't please everyone though.
 
I use it and like it in my T/C Encore 50ML.
I can shoot all day without cleaning the barrel.
Cleaning the breach plug fire channel every few shots is important though.
The full power 209 primers needed for reliable ignation tend to clog up the fire channel quickly leading to poor ignition and other problems.
Also check on the Blackhorn 209 web site to see if your gun-breach plug are compatable with it.

Blackhorn 209 is a nitrocellulose base propellent so clean up is the same as for any smokeless powder firearm.
 
I use it in my TC Encore and am very happy with its performance. Three words of warning: use a sabot bullet combo that loads tight in your gun. Use a long enough primer to avoid blowback in the breech area. I use CCI 209M primers. Keep the BP flash channel clean and free of soot.

Very clean, accurate and consistent powder.
 
So, this powder is non-corrosive, and can be measured volumetrically in both blackpowder cartridges and in traditional muzzle loaders without any more concern as blackpowder?
 
I love BH209 - hate the high price considering it's made in Canada.

Recently I grabbed my TC Encore after a year of disuse to go deer hunting. So I loaded up three test rounds using same loads from last year - 120grs BH209 and put these three into 1" at 100yds - 1 1/2" high and 1" left. Works for me. Short 20" Katahdin tube chronos right at 1800MV with 300s. BTW two went thru same upper left hole. Using a fixed 2.5x scope with applied on 2" Targ Dots to aid my aiming consistency,

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I use CCI 209M and as has been emphasized here already the flash hole clogs with crap after a shot or two. For my TC breech plug I keep a 1/8" twist bit and a welding torch tip cleaner (or guitar string) of right size handy. Carefully finger turn the bit then use the smaller tip cleaner.
 
Remember only 10 ozs. in a bottle. Best price I've found here in N. Ontario is $40 a bottle. I wonder which factory in Canada makes it.
So, this powder is non-corrosive
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First bottles I bought read, "It is not necessary to clean your barrel immediately after use". However the bottle I just bought reads "...we strongly recommend to clean your firearm as soon as possible after shooting". Soooo I clean soon as I can - but easy with only Hoppes #9.
 
I am almost sure the website used to say non corrosive, but it no longer does. Could be they no longer mention that because there may be a slight chance your rifle can corrode and they are covering their azz.
 
I picked up a new CVA Apex this year and also two bottles of BH209, dam near choked when they told me how much the BH was! I tried a couple of different loads and did not get the level of consistency or accuracy I wanted, plus after I cleaned the barrel the point of impact shifted way too far for my liking. I picked up a bottle of FFG 777 loose powder and the first load I tried threw three 300 gr 44 cal Hornady XTPs in to less than an inch at 100 yards.

With more research, I discover that BH may require a different breech plug for use in my rifle. So, if I want to spend $40+ on 10 oz of powder, I first have to spend $20+ on an "upgrade" to my rifle! I may do it to see if this BH is really all that and a bag of chips, but the 777 is shooting so well, and it cleans with water too so why fix what isn't broken for me?
 
I remember seeing a review of Blackhorn 209 in either Handloader or Guns of the Old West magazine, and they said it is so named because it was developed for use in muzzleloaders with a 209 primer, and not to use any other. Deviate at own risk. Other than that, they said it was clean burning like smokeless, but with all the glorious smoke.
 
Headcase said:
I remember seeing a review of Blackhorn 209 in either Handloader or Guns of the Old West magazine, and they said it is so named because it was developed for use in muzzleloaders with a 209 primer, and not to use any other. Deviate at own risk. Other than that, they said it was clean burning like smokeless, but with all the glorious smoke.
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I'm surprised that one of those rags would talk out of their azz...
But here's the proof in the pudding:

http://www.blackhorn209.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/b209blackpowdercartridgedata.pdf
 
I used that very 50-70 data you reference. Works super in my antique rolling block - load fills to the bullet base and performs well too. So far BH209 is working for me.
 
I saw some very promising reviews of its use in cartridges is an issue of Handloader a while back... Everything from .38-40 up to .45-70, accuracy was very good... The only bottlenecks they tried it in where .30-30 and .32 spcl... I was really going to consider trying it until I found out the price... If it ain't true black I will be sticking to SR4759 and 5744 for my lead bullet BP level loads...
 
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