Blaser rifles??

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What are your thoughts on the Blaser R93 LRS2 rifle...I can't seem to find out much about this rifle other than they claim it be accurate...has anyone had a chance to try one out or seen one in action?
 
What are your thoughts on the Blaser R93 LRS2 rifle...I can't seem to find out much about this rifle other than they claim it be accurate...has anyone had a chance to try one out or seen one in action?

They are very good rifles however sako trgs are a much better buys. Better triggers, slightly more accurate, and often a better fit. The blaser is still a great rifle, and will likely not disappoint.
 
Dizzy has nailed it. I am a TRG fan but the Blaser is also an exceptionally good rifle. It may - to some eyes - also have a cooler look if that is an important consideration.
 
Thanks guys, there are two on EE and I was trying to find some info. on them but it doesn't seem like there is much out there.
 
I have shot one and yeah...TRG. I have also heard that the action "may" not lock all the way and when they primer is struck. Bolt in your face. The one I shot was in a 6 norma. I did load a round and not push the bolt ahead with enough force and the pin did release. Looking at the back of the case, there was a kiss. ???
 
They are very good rifles however sako trgs are a much better buys. Better triggers, slightly more accurate, and often a better fit. The blaser is still a great rifle, and will likely not disappoint.

Do not agree with you, I had both model, 1 TRG (.308), 3 LRS2 (2 in.308 and one 6br), 2 Tactical2 (.308, .338LM) yes accuracy is the same but hated the trigger on the TRG and when my hunting partner broke the stock of is TRG on a winter hunt and the guy I sold mine also broke is stock, TRG was over for me. The fit is far superior on the Blaser, I have a hard time shooting anything else...

One more thing, can you switch barrel and bolt head on a TRG? These two rifle can't be compared, they are not in the same league
 
I have shot one and yeah...TRG. I have also heard that the action "may" not lock all the way and when they primer is struck. Bolt in your face. The one I shot was in a 6 norma. I did load a round and not push the bolt ahead with enough force and the pin did release. Looking at the back of the case, there was a kiss. ???

If you dont push the bolt all the way yes you can ear the firepin but it wont strike the primer and even if a freak accident would happen, the bolt would still lock in the barrel. The way its designed, the more pressure it receive the more it lock in the barrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4AqMl1A4aQ&feature=fvwrel
 
I have shot one and yeah...TRG. I have also heard that the action "may" not lock all the way and when they primer is struck. Bolt in your face. The one I shot was in a 6 norma. I did load a round and not push the bolt ahead with enough force and the pin did release. Looking at the back of the case, there was a kiss. ???

Yes, the design of it isn't up to safe standard whatsoever. I also heard of many hush, hush accidents with this rifle some even fatal. Every other gun show I attend to has some person(s) petition to sign to force the company to recall them and compensate the victims. I never was paying full attention to those issues so mayby somebody else can shine more light on those problems.
 
Yes, the design of it isn't up to safe standard whatsoever. I also heard of many hush, hush accidents with this rifle some even fatal. Every other gun show I attend to has some person(s) petition to sign to force the company to recall them and compensate the victims. I never was paying full attention to those issues so mayby somebody else can shine more light on those problems.

Their is only one real accident reported, the rest is only internet rumors :bsFlag: . The guy reloaded by mistake a 375 H&H with pistol powder, the rifle gave away after the 8th shot :HR:

Just look at the youtube video that I posted, you got actual proof vs internet b.s.
 
Yes, the design of it isn't up to safe standard whatsoever. I also heard of many hush, hush accidents with this rifle some even fatal. Every other gun show I attend to has some person(s) petition to sign to force the company to recall them and compensate the victims. I never was paying full attention to those issues so mayby somebody else can shine more light on those problems.


I'm not really sure that this deserves a response but I guess I will try anyway.

Blaser sells more hunting rifles in Germany than any other manufacturer. They are not terribly common here in North America.
Do you honestly believe that in this day and age, manufacturers can "hush up" fatal accidents? If someone's gun came apart there would be pictures all over the internet. The fact is that there are not any posted.
The action is both strong and safe. It is impossible for the firing pin to contact the primer until the bolt is locked, unless the firing pin is broken and protruding (like any other bolt action rifle).
The biggest deficiency with the straight pull system (and the reason most militaries steer clear of it), is that it lacks primary cammed extraction. Thus is can sometimes be difficult to open the bolt if the chamber is dirty or there is an oversized or over pressure round. Also for handloaders this usually means full length resizing.
 
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I'm not really sure that this deserves a response but I guess I will try anyway.

Blaser sells more hunting rifles in Germany than any other manufacturer. They are not terribly common here in North America.
Do you honestly believe that in this day and age, manufacturers can "hush up" fatal accidents? If someone's gun came apart there would be pictures all over the internet. The fact is that there are not any posted.
The action is both strong and safe. It is impossible for the firing pin to contact the primer until the bolt is locked, unless the firing pin is broken and protruding (like any other bolt action rifle).
The biggest deficiency with the straight pull system (and the reason most militaries steer clear of it), is that it lacks primary cammed extraction. Thus is can sometimes be difficult to open the bolt if the chamber is dirty or there is an oversized or over pressure round. Also for handloaders this usually means full length resizing.



Again, I can tell you of three people that were there and saw the case head after the primer was struck and the bolt was not all the way closed. I will say again IT IS POSSIBLE that the pin will hit the primer with the bolt not all the way closed. The gun never fired but.......just sayin:D
 
I'm not really sure that this deserves a response but I guess I will try anyway.

Blaser sells more hunting rifles in Germany than any other manufacturer. They are not terribly common here in North America.
Do you honestly believe that in this day and age, manufacturers can "hush up" fatal accidents? If someone's gun came apart there would be pictures all over the internet. The fact is that there are not any posted.
The action is both strong and safe. It is impossible for the firing pin to contact the primer until the bolt is locked, unless the firing pin is broken and protruding (like any other bolt action rifle).
The biggest deficiency with the straight pull system (and the reason most militaries steer clear of it), is that it lacks primary cammed extraction. Thus is can sometimes be difficult to open the bolt if the chamber is dirty or there is an oversized or over pressure round. Also for handloaders this usually means full length resizing.

Look the new design of the R8 and you ll see that they changed some internal way ....

ill found later some accidents that happens with the Blaser R93 and that was documented even with Isny factory ..

all the best.

read the manual about reloading
http://www.eurooptic.com/PDF/blaser-R93-owners-manual.pdf

http://www.grand-gibier.net/download/docs/Info_presse_BLASER_R93.pdf
this one is in French and says from Isny how good is this rifle ???!!!

http://www.deportiro.com.ar/english_articles/al10_english_version.shtml

related incidents and accidents

1 Accident near Münster with a Blaser rifle model R93 caliber 6,5x68
1 Accident near Koblenz recently with a Blaser rifle R93 caliber .300 Weatherby
1 Accident in Africa with a Blaser rifle model R93 caliber .416 Rem Mag, that then was stolen
2 Accidents near Nantes, one with a Blaser R93 caliber .375 H&H and another with a .300 Winchester Magnum
1 Accident near Paris with a Blaser R93 caliber .375 H&H
1 Accident in Austria
 
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Look the new design of the R8 and you ll see that they changed some internal way ....

ill found later some accidents that happens with the Blaser R93 and that was documented even with Isny factory ..

all the best.

read the manual about reloading
http://www.eurooptic.com/PDF/blaser-R93-owners-manual.pdf

http://www.grand-gibier.net/download/docs/Info_presse_BLASER_R93.pdf
this one is in French and says from Isny how good is this rifle ???!!!

http://www.deportiro.com.ar/english_articles/al10_english_version.shtml

related incidents and accidents

1 Accident near Münster with a Blaser rifle model R93 caliber 6,5x68
1 Accident near Koblenz recently with a Blaser rifle R93 caliber .300 Weatherby
1 Accident in Africa with a Blaser rifle model R93 caliber .416 Rem Mag, that then was stolen
2 Accidents near Nantes, one with a Blaser R93 caliber .375 H&H and another with a .300 Winchester Magnum
1 Accident near Paris with a Blaser R93 caliber .375 H&H
1 Accident in Austria

So much for German engineering....
 
^^^ There is nothing wrong with German engineering. Quite to the contrary in fact.

When dealing with a device that attempts to use a controlled explosion and gas expansion to push a piece of metal in one direction, with the user being situated on the other side of that explosion, there is the chance that something can go wrong.

However the chance of a mishap is certainly not limited to "German Engineered" units:

http://www.drinnonlaw.com/Texas-Defective-Remington700.php

So let's not get carried away with the assumptions and exaggerated third-hand witness accounts.

As to the original question:

I own or have owned in 338 LM: TRG-42, Blaser R93 LRS, Desert Tactical Arms, and Accuracy International AW. The best overall value for money is the TRG-42 - speaking strictly for production rifles. Comparing the Blaser to the TRG, I have found the Blaser to be slightly more accurate and more comfortable to shoot. If you can acquire a TRG with the skeletonized folding stock, then comfort level would be comparable. However "comfort" and "accuracy" are somewhat subjective given personal preference and reloading.

Unless the rifle is to be used strictly for bench shooting (i.e. hunting) then I would have to say that the TRG is a better choice - while both rifles are heavy and unbalanced, the Blaser is more difficult to carry and has more "stuff" to get snagged.


Threads like these are always unfortunate, never truly enlightening, and sometimes entertaining.
 
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