Blued sight on SS bbl question

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I allways soft solder mine in place, no one told me I couldn't!!!. I have to run the barreled action through the blueing tanks after as the heat from the soldering proccess discolours the blued bands etc. David.
 
David Henry said:
I allways soft solder mine in place, no one told me I couldn't!!!. I have to run the barreled action through the blueing tanks after as the heat from the soldering proccess discolours the blued bands etc. David.
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Well that was what I was wondering. How, if you silver solder, do you keep the stainless silver and the blued section blued knowing that the heating will discolour the bbl bands?


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Years ago..:)D now that I'm an old guy, I can use that expression!)...I wanted to replace the original front sight on a HVA that some idiot had 'shortened', and I planned to use for an everyday beater.

I used one of those electric engravers that you use to mark tools, to roughen the exact area that I wanted the sight to sit on and also roughened the underside of the sight. Then I just used a very small amount of Accraglas, and glued it on. It's been there for twenty years or so now and taken some pretty rough use, so it's probably going to stay there.

My biggest beef with gun manufacturers today is that they don't put iron sights on rifles....besides the fact that 90% of them just build throwaway consumer crap.
 
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Tumbleweed said:
I used one of those electric engravers that you use to mark tools, to roughen the exact area that I wanted the sight to sit on and also roughened the underside of the sight. Then I just used a very small amount of Accraglas, and glued it on.
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I wondered about using epoxy..... Here's an example of what I am asking about.

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If you're concerned about the barrel band coming loose under recoil Paul, you can always use an epoxy setup and then cross drill the band for a pin.
 
gunrunner100 said:
If you're concerned about the barrel band coming loose under recoil Paul, you can always use an epoxy setup and then cross drill the band for a pin.
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So, is it usually a friction fit?



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Iron sights

Hey Supercub, that looks like a Ruger front sight. Do they not have a small set screw under the slide in sight if this is so you could put a small dimple on the barrel to corrospond with the screw, and then use acraglass.
GOD, I cant believe I just got talked into using glue to hold on a sight YUCK.
Good luck, D.H.
 
So, is it usually a friction fit?
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Hard to say. I would think most quality jobs are soldered and then blued (if applicable). Like DH mentioned, if it is a Ruger band, there is usually a set screw under the sight blade.
Who did the work on the rifle in the pic, any idea?
 
gunrunner100 said:
Who did the work on the rifle in the pic, any idea?
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No, I just ripped it off the net for information.

I've seen pics of banded sights and bbl band swivel thingys before, but wasn't sure how they silver soldered and kept the bluing in place on a stainless bbl.



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I've installed NECG banded front sight units like that. You adjust them for a drive fit, and there is a locking setscrew. Dimple the barrel for the tip of the screw. I suppose you could use soft solder or Loctite's sleeve and bearing locker. With a properly fitted band, silver solder shouldn't be necessary, although no harm in using it if you choose. The paste solder/flux mixes could be easiest to use, either soft or hard.
 
The one I Accraglassed on wasn't even a band - it's just a plain old ramp, and it's still held for all these years. I did clamp it for a day or so, though, just to keep it straight while it set. I recall that a few weeks after I stuck it on, a friend and I were wondering how good it was...a few good sideways raps with a small 'dead blow' mallet wasn't able to dislodge it. I'm sure a band would be all the stronger.

Come to think of it, how would a guy go about removing it? Does heat release that stuff?

Supercub; you're liable to have to change your name to "Superglue" if you keep starting threads like this....:D
 
Yes, heat can be used to break the bond. So can extreme cold. A sharp tap at very low temperatures might separate your ramp.
 
tiriaq said:
I've installed NECG banded front sight units like that. You adjust them for a drive fit, and there is a locking setscrew. Dimple the barrel for the tip of the screw. I suppose you could use soft solder or Loctite's sleeve and bearing locker. With a properly fitted band, silver solder shouldn't be necessary, although no harm in using it if you choose. The paste solder/flux mixes could be easiest to use, either soft or hard.
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Thanks, I think that's the amswer I was looking for. :)



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