Bolt Removal Lee Enfield No 4 Mk1

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Hi Guys, just picked myself up a Lee Enfield no4 mk1 today and I am trying to remove the bolt to clean it, I know you are suppose to pull back the bolt and rotate the bolt head up 90 degrees and then pull it back out the rest of the way, but no matter where I have the bolt and try to rotate the bolt head I can not get it to turn to come out.

There is a little little on the right side that looks sort of like the bolt release on my mossberg 100 ATR am I suppose to push that down at the same time or something as it does not seem to move.

can someone give me a hand here not sure what I am missing
 
There are three different ways to remove a Lee-Enfield bolt.

Your Number 4 Mark 1 uses the second.

All you need now are an SMLE(for the first way) and a Number 4 Mark 1* (for the third)!

Lee-Enfields are a lot of fun.

Welcome to the club!
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louthepou said:
It's a rite of passage into the world of Lee Enfield ownership! :p
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No ####e Lou.....when i got the gun last week from ya i had to look online to get the bolt back in. I tried turning the head, but it seemed like it wouldnt go and i didnt want to break anything.

hahahha....felt like a total noobie.
 
Check out surplusrifle.com. They will give you some basics on the rifle and show you how to strip all three models of the No4 rifles.
 
I got my AIA M10 lee enfield in the mail today and I couldn't for the life of me figure out how put the bolt in the rifle. I had to do a quick search online and found info on how to remove it and so I did it in reverse. I totally felt like a noob. Man its a beautiful piece!
 
That's the beauty of the internet-forums like this have helped me immeasureably when it comes to understanding Milsurps...YouTube is another great source as well.
 
Try figuring it out with a Company Sergeant-Major looking over your shoulder and breathing sulphur fumes in your face while the Regimental Sergeant Major is over in the corner, eating a baby that looks just like your little brother!

You young guys have it EASY!

We trained in the Number 4 (both models) before we got the C1 (FAL), but figuring out the Smellie was something I had to do alone, sort of like reading "Playboy" so your grandmother didn't catch on to what you were doing. The really frustrating part was that sometimes it would work and sometimes it wouldn't. That last eighth-of-an-inch backwards made all the difference in the world!

Oh, fun!

Don't worry, friend: the Kar 43 is worse..... much, much worse!
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Lee-Enfield bolt assembly

Ah, yes. SMELLIE has brought back reminices of amusing incidents regarding the Lee-Enfield, the Unfortunate, and certain higher ranking people who can not be named in a polite conversation. After a run-in with the Company Sergeant-Major, (a one sided conversation at the best of times), the knowledge of your rifle takes on a whole new field of study.

A factor is the way the bolt is constructed. If the bolt head is a bit loose when threaded on, it can easily turn out one turn. This has happened to the above mentioned Unfortunate, and when the bolt is ATTEMPTED to be put back into the rifle, the bolt will NOT close. The panic that follows is quite amusing to the Unfortunate's fellow soldiers, and is almost certain to be under observation by his Superiors. If he is really out of luck that day, he will have been standing close to the Regimental Sergeant-Major ( God ), and from then on, a very miserable career will be his lot.

For the Uninitiated, this is what SMELLIE refers to when he talks about that last one-eighth of an inch backwards.

It also happens a lot today. People read something about the headspace of the Lee-Enfield being adjustable, so they unscrew the bolt a bit to make it a bit tighter, because it rattles around a bit. Then they try to assemble it. Yes, the headspace is adjustable, but it is putting a longer bolt head onto the bolt that does it. Each number bolt head is approximately .005 inch longer, but you still have to measure them.

About a month ago, my neighbour was given a sporterized Long Branch No.4 Mark 1*. It took him about two weeks before he came over and asked me about it. I went back with him to his house, picked up the rifle, took the bolt out, gave the bolt head one turn, and assembled the rifle. The look on his face was priceless. It took all of about 10 seconds, because the bolt head was loose enough that I could hold the rifle in one hand, and give the bolt a rotating flick with the other, causing the bolt head to rotate and move to the proper position.

One of the big things is to lift the rear sight upwards if you have the screw adjustable micrometer type sight. Some of the others types, you may or may not have to lift the sight.

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Remove the mag, strip it CAREFULLY (push the back end of the follower down s far as you can then wiggle the whole thing up, forward and out, frontwards and at a slant), wipe things of, clean out the birds`nests and put the mag back together.

You will find with the mag out of the ay, you have a lot easier access to the guts of the critter.

Clean out any grease from the guts of the rifle, clean the barrel. DRY THE BARREL, put a light coat of oil on the other working parts, put the rifle back together, pop the magazine back in and head for the range with a couple of chargers and 2 boxes of Partizan.

That should be enough fun to start you off.

Enjoy!
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You people are forgetting a very valuable resource at the top of your forum. These books and manuals will tell you how to dissemble your Enfield rifle.

The Lee Enfield On-line Knowledge Libraries (Index of Articles) from Badgers website at http://www.milsurps.com

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260959

Having donated 95% of the Enfield books and manuals to Badger and his website you people are missing some very good material at your very fingertips.

I was very lucky and six years ago found someone in the U.K. who had access to the old M.O.D. Pattern Room Library with all the old manuals and have over 12 DVDs full of information.

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