Bombproof Do-All Rifle Setup

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Hi Gunny’s,

Looking for some info/thoughts on a Do-All Bolt rifle configuration/setup.

From lowland bush to goat country, and everything in between, I’m looking for the ideal hassle free setup. Nice and light but heavy enough to shoot well. Thinking CRF action for the toothy critters. Wanting to shy away from the talley lightweights for a worry free mount.

With the plethora of well knowledgeable and worldly hunters/guides I’m sure someone has sorted this out.


Thanks in advance.
-Mad
 
Still in progress but this is my current attempt at my thoughts on the same concept. Pre 64 model 70, McMillan stock, 20” carbon fiber barrel, chambered in 338-06AI.
Comes in at 8.5 pounds scoped
Plenty of thump up close and with the right bullets it has plenty of reach for almost any hunting situation. I find this to be a pretty comfortable weight to pack and with the short barrel it handles well while still being stable enough for precision shooting.

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I’d have to say 30-06, clean and simple husqvarna 1640 22” barrel open sight topped with a 2.5-8 German 4 reticle scope in QD rings! Probably around 7.5lbs all in! And of course that is what I would have and use, but there is as many choices as there is people on this forum 😂! So get ready for a lot of different takes on the subject !!IMG_0684.jpeg
 
I’d have to say 30-06, clean and simple husqvarna 1640 22” barrel open sight topped with a 2.5-8 German 4 reticle scope in QD rings! Probably around 7.5lbs all in! And of course that is what I would have and use, but there is as many choices as there is people on this forum 😂! So get ready for a lot of different takes on the subject !!
I'm with DGY on this one.
Husky 1640 in 30-06, iron sights on, topped with a 2.5-10 scope, but for me in a non-schnabel stock. Funnily enough, that's also what I already have. There is nothing more bombproof than a classic Mauser action but made with modern Swedish steel.
 
Ruger gunsite scout comes close to what you’re asking. Or if 308 seems a bit light for toothy critter repellent go with the “guide gun”. Many manufacturers have an “Alaskan” rifle seemingly geared to tough/ varied conditions. Or if Rugers are not to your taste, build one that looks the same. I think the conventional wisdom is:
Mauser action (or at least locking bolt safety)
Stainless (or Ceracote)
Fiberglas stock (Laminate or plastic will work)
Backup iron sights

It would be neat to see what you end up with
 
Ruger gunsite scout comes close to what you’re asking. Or if 308 seems a bit light for toothy critter repellent go with the “guide gun”. Many manufacturers have an “Alaskan” rifle seemingly geared to tough/ varied conditions. Or if Rugers are not to your taste, build one that looks the same. I think the conventional wisdom is:
Mauser action (or at least locking bolt safety)
Stainless (or Ceracote)
Fiberglas stock (Laminate or plastic will work)
Backup iron sights

It would be neat to see what you end up with
Came here to say pretty much exactly what this guy said, +1 vote for the Ruger
 
Hi Gunny’s,

Looking for some info/thoughts on a Do-All Bolt rifle configuration/setup.

From lowland bush to goat country, and everything in between, I’m looking for the ideal hassle free setup. Nice and light but heavy enough to shoot well. Thinking CRF action for the toothy critters. Wanting to shy away from the talley lightweights for a worry free mount.

With the plethora of well knowledgeable and worldly hunters/guides I’m sure someone has sorted this out.


Thanks in advance.
-Mad
Hi
What is wrong with talley light weight one piece ring and base
Just curious
I installed them on two Winchester Model 70's
Seem to work well
 
This is my interpretation of a do-all rifle: pre-war commercial Mauser action in .30/06, Shilen barrel. It's a work-in-progress here; since the pics were taken the checkering and stock finish have been completed. It's away now having the front sight put on. There will be a detachable rear peep that nestles under a trap buttplate. Bluing will likely have to wait till spring, I think I'll run out of time this year.

The choice of .30/06 might seem mundane or cliche, but it shoots flat enough for the plains and mountains, yet you can load it with 200 or 220 gr bullets and it can step up and handle bison and big bears, without obnoxious recoil or rifle weight. There's nothing in North America it can't handle, and very little world wide.
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Hi Gunny’s,

Looking for some info/thoughts on a Do-All Bolt rifle configuration/setup.

From lowland bush to goat country, and everything in between, I’m looking for the ideal hassle free setup. Nice and light but heavy enough to shoot well. Thinking CRF action for the toothy critters. Wanting to shy away from the talley lightweights for a worry free mount.

With the plethora of well knowledgeable and worldly hunters/guides I’m sure someone has sorted this out.


Thanks in advance.
-Mad
There is a lot of knowledge out there in this community, I'll offer what little I know from experience and learning.

FWIW, my iteration of what you are describing is a 1959 Belgian Browning, Olympic Grade in 3006. I picked it up off a used rack in Williams Lake back when Al still ran the store. It shot pretty good until the stock cracked at which point it got a MacMillan Hunter. The iron sights that were on it are perhaps the best iron sites I have ever used. It wears a 3x9x40 Zeiss scope with a ballistic reticle (hold over lines). I also bought very good quality rings and mounts. Not super light but certainly not heavy and it shoots well.

Cartridge importance, rifle make and model, action, and of course CRF vs Push Feed, brand of glass, and barrel length.

Cartridge selection - honestly, anything from a 6.5 Swede to 375 H&H will do. Having said that you will want the penetration for toothy critters that take offence to being aerated. Wound channels kill not hitting power. Hitting power helps make nice deep wound channels. If I was to do it all over again with this many decades of experience I would pick 3006, 308, or 280 Remington.

Reliability is, to me, of the utmost importance. Only you can answer what is reliable enough. For me that means a good bolt action - like my Belgian Browning or I have a detachable magazine Parker Hale sitting in my safe that would look nice with 280Remington barrel on it. These two to me are extremely reliable and both happen to be CRF. Having said that my old Winchester 670A was a pushfeed and in my view was as reliable as the other two.

I think glass brands used to matter more because there are a lot of very good glass brands these days. What is important is what you can see with the glass. To explain; when I bought my bino's I chose the top end Swaro's. Why, because for me they were the clearest for my eyes. The final evaluation happened at dusk looking across a valley in some guys yard - at least 2km away. With the top end Bushnells I could see a greyish blob in the yard. With the top end Vortex I was pretty sure it was an animal. With the leica and Zeiss I was pretty sure it was a dog or a cat. With the Swaro's I could clearly see it was a grey Scotty dog and he was pinching a loaf. You will hear; oh yeah I looked through a Leica spotting scope at the range my entry level spotting scope is just as good. And in broad daylight, at 100 to 300 yards it probably is, but at last light, under a tree, across a valley, at 3km I say: nay, nay.

And finally, barrel length. In terms of actual ballistics my view is that it is kind of like cartridge selection, far more is made of it than it actually warrants. You will hear; "...and that is why you must have an 18" barrel, because it is "handy" in the bush..." I think a lot of this depends on your build, your physique, and personal preference. I have hunted most every kind of condition and my 26" barreled 338 Model 70 has never held me back or been an issue because it wasn't "handy". I have a rifles with barrels ranging from 16" to 26", I just prefer a longer barrel because the longer barrels seem to aim and handle better for me. That may be affected by the fact that I am around 6'4" and have a powerful physique.

Hope this helps.
 
This is my interpretation of a do-all rifle: pre-war commercial Mauser action in .30/06, Shilen barrel. It's a work-in-progress here; since the pics were taken the checkering and stock finish have been completed. It's away now having the front sight put on. There will be a detachable rear peep that nestles under a trap buttplate. Bluing will likely have to wait till spring, I think I'll run out of time this year.

The choice of .30/06 might seem mundane or cliche, but it shoots flat enough for the plains and mountains, yet you can load it with 200 or 220 gr bullets and it can step up and handle bison and big bears, without obnoxious recoil or rifle weight. There's nothing in North America it can't handle, and very little world wide.
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Nice lines to that stock. Interested in where or who you got it from.
 
This is my interpretation of a do-all rifle: pre-war commercial Mauser action in .30/06, Shilen barrel. It's a work-in-progress here; since the pics were taken the checkering and stock finish have been completed. It's away now having the front sight put on. There will be a detachable rear peep that nestles under a trap buttplate. Bluing will likely have to wait till spring, I think I'll run out of time this year.

The choice of .30/06 might seem mundane or cliche, but it shoots flat enough for the plains and mountains, yet you can load it with 200 or 220 gr bullets and it can step up and handle bison and big bears, without obnoxious recoil or rifle weight. There's nothing in North America it can't handle, and very little world wide.
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And in normal weight rifles,, most shooters, both male and female can handle the recoil without flinching.
 
A nice sleek Kimber action addresses the M98 issues
as for a cartridge, anything that chucks 150-180 gr @ 2700-3000 will get the job done
open sights are purely redundant these days and for most types of hunting, just use the appropriate mag. power scope and call it good

why would anyone want ideal hassle free? does not compute
 
mine is sako 90 peak, Warne mountain tech medium 30mm, Nightforce nx8 1-8x dmx capped, .308, hornady 168gr match eldm factory ammo, a little under 7 lb all up, slap together at kitchen table, killing same day as put on paper, could have been same day slapped together as zero'd and killing lol, off the shelf, slap together, no fafo, sub-moa, buy once cry once, feed it with a sig kilo 6x 8x32 and prairies to mountain tops, in and out of truck type hunts, general purpose/camp duty etc....can slap a scope tube clamp pic rail for small qd light/laser (o-light), and mkm machine aluminum scope tube mount bubble level...been shooting mine on steel to over 600

cannot think of something more likely to retain zero through any abuse, or fits compact weight desires, or has all the right materials, modern stock geometry for recoil management, slick feed, trigger, safety, everything next level and tops of features large level over everything else available
 
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