Bore cleaners?

NormB said:
The absolute best way to destroy a barrel is to use a stainless steel brush. You can do it even quicker by spinning it on an electric drill. gone in 60 seconds.
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Agreed, if I brush it's with vinyl. Shoving a clean, properly fitting patch into a dirty rifle is also a good way to bend a good cleaning rod. I alternate between Mpro-7 bore cleaner and copper cleaner after every 100 ish rounds. Keeps my factory barrels very consistent.
 
Ian Robertson said:
Wipe Out with accelerator is about the only thing that will remove copper. It might take several days overnight but it does work, according to my bore scope. I tested it against KG12 and the KG12 is about ten times more effective but unless you have a bore scope you don't know when the copper is out, Wipe Out turns green with copper so no green means no copper left in the barrel. I also use Butches after the Wipe Out it gives me good sighters. I don't use brushes in match barrels. Many tests have been done with all these about removing copper. Everything mentioned except Wipe Out and KG12 do virtually nothing to remove copper no matter how green they turn. The best preservative again referencing many tests is Eezox. Scrubbing the rifling out of your barrel is not the best way to clean it, assuming it really needs to be cleaned. Most of us way over clean.
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Ian what do you use for carbon?
 
Wipe Out seems to handle the carbon as well. I have been know to use Rem Clean or similar once a year or so but I don't shoot that much any more, probably less than 500 split between two rifles. I don't clean unless I need to for accuracy. I have seen barrels with the rifling gone in the middle of the barrel from cleaning and if you think a plastic coated rod can not do damage then think again. I could not bring myself to comment on stainless brushes!
 
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