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I recently bought a Rem 783 in. 308. I will be using this rifle as a budget project to learn how to put together a cheap target rifle based on an article I read recently.
Does anyone know if Pacific Tool and Gauge ships to Canada? They have the bottom steel I need to convert to a different magazine.
Thanks in advance for your input on this entry level project.
 
The PT&G trigger guard/magazine housings are very nicely made. I've used some.
Haven't seen a steel one, though.
 
I asked about the PTG DBM for a Savage Model 10, and was advised that they are junk. Opinion of one, but it is an opinion nonetheless.

Might be worth looking at Atlasworxs in Australia as well - not sure if they make one specifically for the 783 though.
 
My experience is limited to units for the R700. No complaints.

What exactly was wrong with the Savage M10 unit?
 
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tiriaq said:
What exactly was wrong with the Savage M10 unit?
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Apparently required an excessive amount of fitting. That's the only bit of detail provided, and there hasn't been a reply since.

So, I went looking for other options and found Atlasworxs - cheaper, and reviews seem decent as well. But, I am aware it is a sin to purchase a bottom bolt release Savage, or a Savage in general. :nest:
 
PT&G has different models of trigger guards. The ones that I have used required significant inletting, by design. The spacing must also be adjusted so that the magazine is presented properly.
The last one I installed went into a 40X single shot stock. This required significant alterations to the stock.
Once installed, feed using different makes of AICS pattern magazines has ben trouble free.
 
tiriaq said:
PT&G has different models of trigger guards. The ones that I have used required significant inletting, by design. The spacing must also be adjusted so that the magazine is presented properly.
The last one I installed went into a 40X single shot stock. This required significant alterations to the stock.
Once installed, feed using different makes of AICS pattern magazines has ben trouble free.
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What I want is a chassis, but a $580 (min) accessory may end up just being out of reach. I've been fiddling around with the factory stock and I think at this point I can live with it long term. Part of why I don't want to pony up for a chassis is I want to get a spare barrel, and magnum bolt head sometime later this year. Back to PGT, just how much fitting do you suppose you'd need, since the PTG BM is designed to replace the Savage BM I wouldn't expect a dramtic amount.

Also since I have your ear (or anyone else that has experience with this), and the reason I'm considering PGT is the magnum bolt head. Looking at the various PTG bolt related products they all have this kind of engineering boiler plate about fitting the part to the action. Do you think it it's possible to install this part without having to spend too much time/money getting it fitted?
 
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I expect that the new bolt head would be basically a drop-in, as far as installation in the tubular bolt body goes.
Then there is the issue of even contact of the locking lugs with the receiver abutments, clearance between the bolt nose and barrel breech face, and headspace. These would all have to be checked, and adjusted if necessary. I suspect that any fitting required would be minimal, if any fitting was required. PT&G is covering itself - they don't want to suggest that a replacement bolt head is going to be a drop-in part.
 
Could be a case of needing a fair bit of fitting by design, as noted. Although, you have to wonder why a company would make it intentionally difficult for end users to install their parts - or, why they would make something that is supposed to be a replacement for OEM parts, require significant fitting.

As an aside, I've ordered a couple of Atlasworxs DBMs for Savage Model 10s. Just have to wait for them to arrive, eventually. Based off of the footprint that Colin @Atlasworxs provided, it should be very nearly a drop in fit - as the DBM is very nearly the same dimensions as the Savage part(s). Actually, in a few cases the Atlasworxs product is slightly smaller/narrower than the Savage parts it will be replacing.
 
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I've ordered a couple of Atlasworxs DBMs for Savage Model 10s.
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They don't list a model for bottom bolt release.

I suspect that fitting is required due to the stock in most cases not the BM. In the case of Savage, I've had a fair number of them over the last 20 years and my current rifle is the first without some annoying defect, and even this one had several loose fasteners.

Anything else out there that the OP, and I could consider?
 
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What I want is a chassis, but a $580 (min) accessory may end up just being out of reach. I've been fiddling around with the factory stock and I think at this point I can live with it long term. Part of why I don't want to pony up for a chassis is I want to get a spare barrel, and magnum bolt head sometime later this year. Back to PGT, just how much fitting do you suppose you'd need, since the PTG BM is designed to replace the Savage BM I wouldn't expect a dramtic amount.

Also since I have your ear (or anyone else that has experience with this), and the reason I'm considering PGT is the magnum bolt head. Looking at the various PTG bolt related products they all have this kind of engineering boiler plate about fitting the part to the action. Do you think it it's possible to install this part without having to spend too much time/money getting it fitted?
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A new bolt mean at strict minimum a complete head spacing and timing for proper primary extraction. Unless you know what you're doing and have a lathe in your garage it's a take to a professional type of affair.
 
OP, what do you think this project will run you at the end of the day incl. the 783 purchase? What are your plans for the rifle? A Chassis and Heavy Match Barrel? Maybe a Timney trigger? I am just curious as to how close you will end up cost wise to existing entry level PR's such as the RPR and Savage Mdl 10's.
 
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OP, what do you think this project will run you at the end of the day incl. the 783 purchase? What are your plans for the rifle? A Chassis and Heavy Match Barrel? Maybe a Timney trigger? I am just curious as to how close you will end up cost wise to existing entry level PR's such as the RPR and Savage Mdl 10's.
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That is a very valid point. I sunk around 8000$ for my first build and it was just on a remmy 700 action. Lost a lot of $$$ when I ended up selling that rifle.
 
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They don't list a model for bottom bolt release.
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They do not, and apparently no plans at this time to make one. I played around a bit seeing how easy or difficult it would be to actuate the bolt release mechanism, without the Savage bolt release slider thing on the trigger guard. All you need to do, besides pulling the trigger back slightly (to allow the release to move), is be able to reach up through the trigger opening and slide the release back. While definitely not as "slick" as the OEM setup, it'll work.

The Atlasworxs DBM is the most reasonably priced solution for a Savage Model 10 series rifle; even if it is designed for the top bolt release "only".
 
Well, I'm going to backtrack on my recommendation for Atlasworxs DBMs for Savage Model 10 series rifles. I bought two of them, with a future .223 rifle in mind, and the bloody thing will not work. I took the specs off of the Atlasworxs website, and measured for my receiver - it'll work. I then got the footprint from Altasworxs (via email) and measured everything up - it'll work, with only a little bit of fitting here and there; nothing too substantial.

Got the DBMs yesterday, and spent two hours fiddling away at a Boyds laminate stock to make it work - no dice. I did get the DBM to fit in the stock well enough, but things weren't perfect so I stopped for the night intended to take another run at it today. Well, today came around and the thing just is not going to work. Decided to just take the stock off entirely and check things right off of the receiver - no good. The action screw spacing is not compatible - even after measuring things/comparing the spec. from the site. Now, I will say one thing about the DBM it does appear to be quite well made and nicely finished - it has this nifty little offset bushing for the front action screw to make it compatible with two marginally different spacings of action screws; but not mine, apparently.

So, I'm miffed that this has happened after all the BS of ordering and getting it shipped from Australia - and getting nicked for duty/taxes by the CBSA. I'll wait and see what Atlasworxs has to say, if they refuse a refund then I'll be posting them on the EE. Someone will be able to use them on a Savage 10 series rifle.
 
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