Boyds walnut stock - who offers professional fit/ install (vancouver island)

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Good morning fellas,

After waffling for some time, I broke down and ordered a Boyds Walnut stock (currently on sale) and all the metal/ ferrule from treeline.

Can you tell me if there is a gunsmith on Vancouver island that can do a professional fit/ install of this onto my 2009 Norinco?

I am a do-it myselfer to a certain point, but I don't want to screw this up.

Thanks,

Jeff
 
i dont really know how you could mess it up...

Factory fit and finished references stocks that have been 100% fit and sanded to our house action, then finished with one of Boyds' superior finishes. Factory Fit stocks can be pulled from the box and bolted to your firearm with no fitting; however, on occasion, sight variations of individual guns may occur, requiring slight fitting that a novice should be able to perform
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You have a few choices in Victoria. There's Pullen's gunsmithing, Island Outfitters (outsourced gunsmithing), and a guy named Larry who you can contact through m14.ca

One other gunsmith exists in Victoria, but I don't have his contact information. John will probably refer you to him if he doesn't want the work.

Larry goes to the Fall gunshow at the Saanich fairgrounds, so you can usually talk to him about m14 related stuff. Last time we spoke he had this badass aluminum stock prototype that was about to go into production, but there hasn't been any updates since, and that was last September.

I believe you can also drop your receiver right into that stock without custom fitting.

EDIT: Haha check out Treeline's site, they sell guns and lingerie, that's pretty smart!
 
Alright, those are good options.

The factory plastic stock fails the function test - hammer falls with trigger depressed. I have tried to reduce the area the trigger plate rests on (rear of trigger assembly) but it does not appear to be getting it right. The trigger assembly functions properly outside of the stock.

So I threw in the towel and said I would have a professional do it for me. I have destroyed many an expensive item with a file set in the past!

Jeff
 
Many people have done this, including myself.

you have 2 major filing to do, the rest is just very very minor.

- you have do make the ferrule fit on the front of the inletting (if it 2 finger)
- you have to extend the side angle on the top rigth (receiver part, next to the back sigth.) This is the principal cause where the trigger and the receiver attach but are too far and can cause the sear not to engage correctly.

Make sure to look at my video at how to do the trigger test.

It is a diy job... a professional could also screw it or will charge accordingly.

I did it from a failing trigger test unfinnished to a finished :
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arcaner said:
- you have to extend the side angle on the top rigth (receiver part, next to the back sigth.) This is the principal cause where the trigger and the receiver attach but are too far and can cause the sear not to engage correctly.
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Can you expand on this explanation, or provide pictures of the area and the needed modification?

Thank you,
Jeff
 
there is exhaustive info on the internet and loads of folks here who can probably help you with the do it yerself install.

I'm in the b.c. interior, m14's is all I do, and my bedding and finishing rate for walnut/birch stocks is 150.00

if yer set on having a "professional" do the work, p.m. me
 
Yeah a lot of the gunsmiths don't specialize in m14's

Larry won't touch a rifle anymore, I think because he's retired. There's really only m14doc that I'd trust with the work, as it wouldn't be his first time dealing with your type of rifle.
 
JPainter said:
Can you expand on this explanation, or provide pictures of the area and the needed modification?

Thank you,
Jeff
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i wont write you a step by step tutorial, I basicly told you all the *trouble spot* i had while finishing mine.

First, the place where the ferrule touche the wood toward the barrel, make sure it sit firmly on wood (if your end with 2 finger, make sure to repeat that on the wood.)

Second, when sitting the received in the wood, on a norinco 2009 you will see that the angle on the rigth side of the received that sit on top should continue for longer than what boyds decided. (its a difference between the norinco and the springfield) So you have to carefully file to continue that angle. There is a thread about that on this forum.

Other than the regular sanding, your rifle should not sit in the wood and pas the trigger test. If it doesnt, you can *verify* the rigth side angle by puttin the rifle the same way than in the photo I posted, and you look at the gap between the wood and the metal at the back of the receiver, there should not be any gap at all, even a 1mm gap will make the trigger test fail. If you have a gap, your angle is wrong.



I am not an expert.
 
JPainter said:
If I need to, I can make a doctor's appointment.

Cheers,

Jeff
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:D
that never get's old hehehe
my friends all bug me and call me Doc now. My mom says she's happy, she finally got a doctor in the family LOL ...... it's kind of an inside joke for us.

the other thing i might suggest, cuz it's such a gratifying do it yerself thing when you are finished fitting a fine piece of wood to a rifle...... check brownells for books on bedding the m1a and the m14 owners manual by scott duff. Cheap book, with excellent info on stock fitting.
you can get the book and a bedding kit from brownells for probably under 100 bucks.

some boyd's stocks need more work than others depending which version you have. by version i mean unfinished, semi finished, finished, as boyd's sells all three.
the best thing i can suggest to the do it yerselfer is to sit there and carefully analyze the lines of your original chinese stock and then look at the boyd's for the subtle differences. Arcaner is right on the money with the top right surface nearing the heel, needs to be addressed for the angled bearing surface under the oprod on the chinese receiver. This ledge runs all the way back to past the take down notch and the stock must be adjusted this far back as well..... angled to match the already existing angle on the forward 3 or so inches of the stocks receiver area edge. Look at your receiver and feel the edges that sit on top of the stock..... they are bevelled by approximately 5 degrees.

i do not know if there is an in depth step by step procedure on this site..... someone should do one up with pics ;) I'm on dial up so no chance i can do it.
 
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