BP cartridge Maynard rifle questiion - some answers-new photos

Londonshooter

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Hello CGN'ers.
I have had this rifle for 35 years always with the thought of restoring it to a shooter but maybe the time has come to let someone else have it. I do not know the history other than my father purchased it from an oldtimer near North Bay, Ontario. I had intended to make a cast of the breech but have yet to do so - there's no stamp I can see of what the chambering is but seems to be > .30 calibre, maybe .32-40? If I take the forestock off does anyone know if I would then see what the calibre is(?) The action seems a little sloppy when fully open but locks up tight. Firing pin is intact, good spring on hammer, travel #### works, trigger works, no mechanical issues or missing screws that I can tell. Bore is shiny with no obvious pits and to me the rifling looks sharp. I don't have a bore light to upload a pic. Outside of barrel is pitted and scratched and bluing is pretty much gone. No cracks in wood, but a chip missing in the left stock checkering. Sadly the vernier sight, front and rear sights are missing. Romano in the US carries repro's of the sights but they are very dear. The folding sight is approx $500 US - a complete reproduction rifle from them will cost closer to $5000. I guess a handy gunsmith could build his own sights or modify other makes to fit? Beyond the scope of my capabilities.
The stampings and engraving do not come out clearly in the photos but are quite sharp in real life. Right side of receiver engraved " Manufactured by MASS. ARMS CO, Chicopee Falls" and stamped "1882". Left side is engraved "Edward Maynard Patentee May 27, 1851, Dec 6, 1859" and stamped "1873".
So my main question is whether there is much of a market for my rifle in the condition it is in? If I were to list it in the CGN antique exchange what should I ask for it? Can anyone help with where markings should be for chambering?
thanks, hopefully photobucket works here - have not used it before...

edit: as pointed out in reply below, the photos are low in detail. I will find a better camera and also experiment with bore light pics. Will indicate when new photos are uploaded in the thread title.
 
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Maynard rifles are a odd duck they have followers and others stay away. I have seen rifles like yours go for 1200 USD on the high and as low as 450 USD
Reproduction sights and brass, dies and bullet mold will run you upwards of 1000.00 landed on our soil.
There was a Maynard in a box a few years ago with a change off barrel and complete with sights and bullet mold and some brass it sat up on the antique exchange for quite some time? I do not know if it sold or the owner just pulled it. I think it was priced at 2800.00, but it had everything there to shoot and another barrel to boot.

List it and see what happens or trade it for something you can shoot
 
Post your question on the ASSRA forum, theres a couple maynard experts there.

They might require better photos than those daguerreotypes you took with a potato though...........
 
@hickstick - that's harsh but thanks for the tip. ASSRA : American single shot rifle asssociation. Will see what I can do re: better photos.




That's some wax you see on the barrel there.
 
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what is the bore like? I think if a person wanted to shoot the gun, that would be a crucial issue

cheers mooncoon

here you go. Looks ok from breech, rust in last 1.5" of muzzle end. Had shared these on ASSRA forum and there was some discussion about if rust carefully cleaned up, rifle might still perform well - needs testing to know.

 
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Does this Maynard have an extractor? It's hard to tell from the pictures. They made the 1873s and the 1882s concurrently. The later model has the extractor and used standard brass, the 1873 needs proprietary Maynard cartridges.
 
Yes HS_10, has extractor. I guess this means not proprietary but still obsolete cartridges? I've read of people soldering washers to their brass to accommodate the earlier chamberings(?) I subscribed to ASSRA as you recommended. It's difficult to navigate through the forum by searching for keyword but as you said, lots of Maynard enthusiasts there. Found a link to .pdf of nice 1881 catalogue. If anyone interested, PM me for a copy. Would be nice to find one post-1882. Also found what seems to be a reasonable source for reproduction sights: http://www.ssfirearms.com/products.asp?cat=119&pg=5

Removed barrel and forearm today hoping to find stamp of calibre/chambering but no such luck. Measured barrel for length and its 28". More and more am thinking that I want to eventually get loaded brass and sights to shoot this rifle and see what it can do.
 
Thanks for that link. For 15 USD a glossy reprint of the 45 page 1885 catalogue is now on its way. Irony is that for $10 more and 130 years of time travel, I could buy an original rifle from Mass Arms.
Based on hours to earn $25 in 1880, an online source quotes skilled labour wages (e.g. blacksmith, carpenter) at $0.27 per hour, so you would have to pound steel for 93 hours to earn that rifle.
Thousands of different obscure old gun manuals and catalogues are reprinted by Cornell. Impressive.
 
Thanks for that link. For 15 USD a glossy reprint of the 45 page 1885 catalogue is now on its way. Irony is that for $10 more and 130 years of time travel, I could buy an original rifle from Mass Arms.
Based on hours to earn $25 in 1880, an online source quotes skilled labour wages (e.g. blacksmith, carpenter) at $0.27 per hour, so you would have to pound steel for 93 hours to earn that rifle.
Thousands of different obscure old gun manuals and catalogues are reprinted by Cornell. Impressive.

pretty neat how the price hasn't really changed. My sharps cost me 2 weeks pay (with some OT) back when I was a machinist.
 
Londonshooter; I have a couple of the Maynard books. They made a 35-30 and a 35-40. One of the books has all the case dimensions in it. If you pm me with your dimensions I can figure what cal you have. I made up some brass for mine, not difficult to do. Cheers
 
Yes, lots of Maynard chamberings being CNC'd by Rocky Mountain. Pretty hefty price tag. Here's my chamber dimensions after getting some helpful PMs from Willy Tincup on how to make a casting using paraffin wax. (Thanks, Willy TC).


I already have gotten a couple of opinions on what this cartridge is but they are not in agreement. Anyone else care to weigh in? Have been told to slug the barrel to get best measurement of bore.
 
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