Brass, bullets, reloading components after itar regulation change?

[eaglesnester]

Does anyone with a law degree who is a shooter, reloader know if we will be able to purchase reloading components directly from Brownells, sans propellent, caps, of course after the ITAR regs are changed and go to Commerce Dept?
I shoot and reload for multiple calibers and some of my rifles like certan bullet brands and weights that are almost impossible to find in Canada but are readly avaliable in the US. Same with 45/2-7/8. 300 grain Lupua in Burger, 338/378 weatherby brass and on and on.

 

[Mystic Precision]

Since the law hasn't been enacted yet, we don't know what the new playing field will be. For now, ALL of the items you are looking for are available... inventory changes of course, but access has been open for at least 10 yrs

What is not going to change is the cost of international freight... when you add the extra costs, brokerage and other add ons, I doubt you will save anything vs the existing supply chain.

With my current customers, they certainly don't pay any premium to access all of the reloading items.... don't do powder and primers

Jerry

 

[VinnyQC]

Since the law hasn't been enacted yet, we don't know what the new playing field will be. For now, ALL of the items you are looking for are available... inventory changes of course, but access has been open for at least 10 yrs

What is not going to change is the cost of international freight... when you add the extra costs, brokerage and other add ons, I doubt you will save anything vs the existing supply chain.

With my current customers, they certainly don't pay any premium to access all of the reloading items.... don't do powder and primers

Jerry

I beg to differ. A lot of us have made brass orders at Brownells just to learn you need to pay a fortune for the export permit. Sometimes it's the unavailability, but for me it was a lower price for the same product. I just checked for fun, and starline 44mag or 50AE brass is 10-15% cheaper at brownells than at BSS (Henry usually has the best price for brass). Brownells typically charge less for shipping to me than Henry does, even though it's international. Brownells isn't even the cheapest, just the only only one that ships north of the border.

I still order pretty much all my pistol magazines from brownells because after all the fees they end up 20-50% less expensive. I'd order brass from them if they shipped it here.

 

[yodave]

Since the law hasn't been enacted yet, we don't know what the new playing field will be. For now, ALL of the items you are looking for are available... inventory changes of course, but access has been open for at least 10 yrs

What is not going to change is the cost of international freight... when you add the extra costs, brokerage and other add ons, I doubt you will save anything vs the existing supply chain.

With my current customers, they certainly don't pay any premium to access all of the reloading items.... don't do powder and primers

Jerry

there is a heavy markup applied by one of our sole importers, and some of us are tired of paying his tax and are working around him in one way or another as he has set the retail price on many products regardless of which retailer is selling those products, if the cross border shopping is opened back up I to will be doing my part to make america great again unless the prices in canada fall back down to match those prices are southern neighbors are paying

 

[rick357]

there is a heavy markup applied by one of our sole importers, and some of us are tired of paying his tax and are working around him in one way or another as he has set the retail price on many products regardless of which retailer is selling those products, if the cross border shopping is opened back up I to will be doing my part to make america great again unless the prices in canada fall back down to match those prices are southern neighbors are paying

I also like the thought of getting a sale every so often. Seems that a lot of that happens stateside and we NEVER see anything even close in Canada. I head to the US fairly often and if ITAR on brass and bullets goes away my truck will be riding a little bit lower on the return trip.

 

[Chas59]

I would definitely buy more in the States if ITAR etc. allowed. I was in a US Cabelas yesterday and Hornady .300 Winmag brass was $39.99 US for 50, in the Abbotsford Cabelas it's $90.99 Cdn. Even with exchange and State tax (no Cdn tax at the border it seems anymore unless you buy a large dollar amount of stuff...I paid GST only once in the last 50 border crossings), it works out to be about 60% of the cost, wanted to buy it so bad... Ridiculous how we get gouged.

 

[Mystic Precision]

I beg to differ. A lot of us have made brass orders at Brownells just to learn you need to pay a fortune for the export permit. Sometimes it's the unavailability, but for me it was a lower price for the same product. I just checked for fun, and starline 44mag or 50AE brass is 10-15% cheaper at brownells than at BSS (Henry usually has the best price for brass). Brownells typically charge less for shipping to me than Henry does, even though it's international. Brownells isn't even the cheapest, just the only only one that ships north of the border.

I still order pretty much all my pistol magazines from brownells because after all the fees they end up 20-50% less expensive. I'd order brass from them if they shipped it here.

If I can quote items for you, send me a pm or email. I do not have a click to shop portal... sorry but too much time and headache for right now.

I have compared a number of items to what is offered on various Cdn sites, and more often then not, my prices are lower.

I can't help that postage across Canada can add up and many of the items we want are heavy... All I can do is offer the price of the item at competitive pricing vs the US and I have done so for 10 yrs.

If you go to my website, you can see all the brands I can offer.... ALL items within each company is possible and sometimes custom orders are possible too. I am very low tech so you will need to send me an email for a quote.

Is it immediate shipment? more then likely no but I get shipments every month so lead times are fair...

YMMV

Jerry

 

[Mystic Precision]

there is a heavy markup applied by one of our sole importers, and some of us are tired of paying his tax and are working around him in one way or another as he has set the retail price on many products regardless of which retailer is selling those products, if the cross border shopping is opened back up I to will be doing my part to make america great again unless the prices in canada fall back down to match those prices are southern neighbors are paying

Since I do not know the item, I can't comment... but I think you have found my pricing to be very fair in the past.

My pricing bounces around due to changes in distributor pricing, exchange rate, and import fees... my mark up hasn't changed in 10yrs.

Just an email away if you need a price and to order.

Jerry

 

[Icefire]

I would definitely buy more in the States if ITAR etc. allowed. I was in a US Cabelas yesterday and Hornady .300 Winmag brass was $39.99 US for 50, in the Abbotsford Cabelas it's $90.99 Cdn. Even with exchange and State tax (no Cdn tax at the border it seems anymore unless you buy a large dollar amount of stuff...I paid GST only once in the last 50 border crossings), it works out to be about 60% of the cost, wanted to buy it so bad... Ridiculous how we get gouged.

63.95$ at Londero, your lgs is gouging you

 

[Diamondback Six]

I would definitely buy more in the States if ITAR etc. allowed. I was in a US Cabelas yesterday and Hornady .300 Winmag brass was $39.99 US for 50, in the Abbotsford Cabelas it's $90.99 Cdn. Even with exchange and State tax (no Cdn tax at the border it seems anymore unless you buy a large dollar amount of stuff...I paid GST only once in the last 50 border crossings), it works out to be about 60% of the cost, wanted to buy it so bad... Ridiculous how we get gouged.

And similarly, if it cut both ways and we didn't have 922R to deal with and whatever export restrictions from Ottawa, I would be happy to help you guys' economy buying genuine Diemaco C7 and C8 components for builds for the girlfriend.

ITAR is run by agenda-driven State Department cryptofascist douchebags, EAR (which this stuff would be moved to) is run by Commerce Department who are in the business of, well, business.

 

[adamg]

And similarly, if it cut both ways and we didn't have 922R to deal with and whatever export restrictions from Ottawa, I would be happy to help you guys' economy buying genuine Diemaco C7 and C8 components for builds for the girlfriend.

ITAR is run by agenda-driven State Department cryptofascist douchebags, EAR (which this stuff would be moved to) is run by Commerce Department who are in the business of, well, business.

Yeah but, aren't optics exports from USA restricted by Commerce Department? And those are arguably more difficult to export than ITAR items.

 

[Diamondback Six]

Yeah but, aren't optics exports from USA restricted by Commerce Department? And those are arguably more difficult to export than ITAR items.

There are some in each class, but last I knew almost all the good stuff was ITAR. Here's an example of how stupid ITAR is... my GF couldn't legally buy an Elcan C79 down here despite being from its country-of-origin, and IIRC couldn't bring her own even if she bought it up there. Technically, if some bureaucratic p*ssbucket wanted to go by a really strict read, just sending her photos of my builds in progress could be construed as "ITAR Violation" since to them a pic of a restricted item is the same as the item itself. F*** You Very Much, Dubya and your myopic delusion of "self-financing departments"...

 

[eaglesnester]

There are some in each class, but last I knew almost all the good stuff was ITAR. Here's an example of how stupid ITAR is... my GF couldn't legally buy an Elcan C79 down here despite being from its country-of-origin, and IIRC couldn't bring her own even if she bought it up there. Technically, if some bureaucratic p*ssbucket wanted to go by a really strict read, just sending her photos of my builds in progress could be construed as "ITAR Violation" since to them a pic of a restricted item is the same as the item itself. F*** You Very Much, Dubya and your myopic delusion of "self-financing departments"...

I do believe that was downlow bathhouse Berry that started that bovine scat

 

[Diamondback Six]

I do believe that was downlow bathhouse Berry that started that bovine scat

Just like the Amerikanische-Gestapo at DHS, Curious George cracked the door and then the Skinny Little Big-Eared Freak In Mom Jeans threw it fully open and brought the whole entourage through it. One by Law of Unintended Consequences, the second by deliberate malice.

 

[Mystic Precision]

I would definitely buy more in the States if ITAR etc. allowed. I was in a US Cabelas yesterday and Hornady .300 Winmag brass was $39.99 US for 50, in the Abbotsford Cabelas it's $90.99 Cdn. Even with exchange and State tax (no Cdn tax at the border it seems anymore unless you buy a large dollar amount of stuff...I paid GST only once in the last 50 border crossings), it works out to be about 60% of the cost, wanted to buy it so bad... Ridiculous how we get gouged.

FYI, based on the exchange on Friday, hrn 300WM in bulk packaging would be $75/100... then $12 postage from me to you. Of course, add our lovely prov tax.

This is the quote I would have given you on Friday and if the exchange doesn't change, the same quote I would give you on Monday.

How much would this brass cost you imported to your door with all taxes and fees paid?

There are other stores like mine across Canada quietly working to keep our customers happy and cost competitive. Many are very low tech and are just an email or phone call away.

It might surprise you at what stuff can cost in Canada even with all our current import costs and fees.

YMMV

Jerry

 

[VinnyQC]

FYI, based on the exchange on Friday, hrn 300WM in bulk packaging would be $75/100... then $12 postage from me to you. Of course, add our lovely prov tax.

This is the quote I would have given you on Friday and if the exchange doesn't change, the same quote I would give you on Monday.

How much would this brass cost you imported to your door with all taxes and fees paid?

There are other stores like mine across Canada quietly working to keep our customers happy and cost competitive. Many are very low tech and are just an email or phone call away.

It might surprise you at what stuff can cost in Canada even with all our current import costs and fees.

YMMV

Jerry

More then that.

How much for 100x 44magnum or 100x 50AE? 39$ for 44magnum and 69$ for 50AE. For starline. That's in CAD (counted an extra 2% on rate to feed Visa/MC) including shipping, everything to my door. Once in a while I have to pay taxes but most often not. I would also order some other stuff that you don't carry, some small (3-10$) spare parts to keep for handguns at the same time, so actual cost of shipping shouldn't even be completely counted.

Also, keep in mind that for some of us, shipping would be 0$, since we frequently go to US for buisness, vacation, etc... and we could just pick up some brass on the way home.

 

[Chas59]

FYI, based on the exchange on Friday, hrn 300WM in bulk packaging would be $75/100... then $12 postage from me to you. Of course, add our lovely prov tax.

This is the quote I would have given you on Friday and if the exchange doesn't change, the same quote I would give you on Monday.

How much would this brass cost you imported to your door with all taxes and fees paid?

There are other stores like mine across Canada quietly working to keep our customers happy and cost competitive. Many are very low tech and are just an email or phone call away.

It might surprise you at what stuff can cost in Canada even with all our current import costs and fees.

YMMV

Jerry

Good to know Jerry, I will order from you next time.