Bringing optics from the US into Canada?

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I understand that there are restrictions on US retailers shipping firearm optics to Canada.

However, do the same restrictions apply to a consumer who physically purchases a scope in the US and physically brings it into Canada himself?

TIA.
 
mcp1 said:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130572

Those stickies are handy...
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Thanks for the response, but I read the sticky prior to making the post. From the sticky:

Here is what must be done in order to obey the Import/Export laws of Canada & The U.S. for those who wish to order Rifle Scopes from the U.S.
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...which does not directly address my question, hence the post.

For further clarification, there is a significant difference between a US merchant exporting an item, and a US merchant selling an item in country to a consumer who then as the end user takes it to another country.

I'm just trying to ascertain whether or not I would encounter a problem at the border (Canada Customs) as a result.
 
However, do the same restrictions apply to a consumer who physically purchases a scope in the US and physically brings it into Canada himself?
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It's pretty much the same situation as far as the export permit being required.
 
Capt.Canuck said:
I understand that there are restrictions on US retailers shipping firearm optics to Canada.

However, do the same restrictions apply to a consumer who physically purchases a scope in the US and physically brings it into Canada himself?

TIA.
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You need the permits, whether you order, drive down and get it, fly back with it, paddle your canoe across or ride your bike.

Scope coming over US border = permit required.

Capt.Canuck said:
I'm just trying to ascertain whether or not I would encounter a problem at the border (Canada Customs) as a result.
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The problem will never be at Canada's customs, its the US border service that will have the problem. They can and do stop vehicles that are exiting the US and will search for items that are restricted and or prohibited from being exported without a permit. This is not an importing issue, its an exporting from the US issue.

I've been through their roadblocks twice. When they decide to set up, they have 15-20 offficers and search dogs going through and around vehicles. They don't screw around down there, and if they find restricted items, you will be eating pavement.
 
Capt.Canuck said:
I understand that there are restrictions on US retailers shipping firearm optics to Canada.

However, do the same restrictions apply to a consumer who physically purchases a scope in the US and physically brings it into Canada himself?

TIA.
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Think I found a loophole, if one must purchase a scope from the U.S. and bring it back across the border.
Obtain a Montana hunting licience, online, and on your trip to the States, bring your rifle.
Simple install the new scope on the rifle and drive back across the border.
Nobody being the wiser.
How could it get any simpler?:rolleyes:
 
trebor2880 said:
Think I found a loophole, if one must purchase a scope from the U.S. and bring it back across the border.
Obtain a Montana hunting licience, online, and on your trip to the States, bring your rifle.
Simple install the new scope on the rifle and drive back across the border.
Nobody being the wiser.
How could it get any simpler?:rolleyes:
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This is not a loophole. This is a deliberate attempt to circumvent US ITAR restrictions. This is, in a word, illegal with all the risks and possible punishments that go with it.
 
blargon said:
You need the permits, whether you order, drive down and get it, fly back with it, paddle your canoe across or ride your bike.

Scope coming over US border = permit required.



The problem will never be at Canada's customs, its the US border service that will have the problem. They can and do stop vehicles that are exiting the US and will search for items that are restricted and or prohibited from being exported without a permit. This is not an importing issue, its an exporting from the US issue.

I've been through their roadblocks twice. When they decide to set up, they have 15-20 offficers and search dogs going through and around vehicles. They don't screw around down there, and if they find restricted items, you will be eating pavement.
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Correct!
 
its a U.S. regulation folks, you cannot export without a permit. It is not illegal for a Canadian to own or buy, its illegal for anyone in the U.S. to send, ship, transport to Canada without a permit end of story. Get a permit, not a big deal.
 
trebor2880 said:
:)Ya, you're right. I'll stick to E-Bay. Much safer. IMO:)
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Actually true. It is the exporter who is breaking the regulations so if someone in the US sells you the optic and they ship it out of the US, they are the one contravening the rules and are at risk, and not you. The only thing you risk is loosing the shipment (in truth I'd say there is a low likelihood of that but it still is a possibility) but you personally haven't actually broken the ITAR regulations.

YMMV.
 
I had the same delema. I wanted a burris 2-12, and found the price difference here and US to be rude to say the least. I contacted Prophet River, and they brought it in legal, and for hundreds less than any price I could find here.
 
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