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I work in the armoured car industry. From what I've heard we in Ontario are going to be switching over to semi-auto's sometime next year. I know my counterparts in Quebec have already started to switch over. One thing I know about this industry is don't believe anything until you see it in person. I've heard and been promised many things... I for one can't wait until we are issued our own firearms too, I don't mean that I will be taking it home or anything like that but having a "community firearm" can be very frustrating.
Oh and to add to the rumors, I've heard from a firearms instructor with my company that we will be buying re-furbed S&W 5946's from the RCMP and Peel. May or may not be true.
 
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All I can say is that some places have already changed over to Semi-autos, and we dont like sharing as than nobody wants to take care of it. Unless your shop has a gunsmith at the facility than the things get dusted over because "the other guy should clean it"...

And personally it'd come down to, for safety reasons, me not wanting to share a pistol with some slob who doesnt want to take care of it.

quote]It makes no difference what is carried, its the operator that counts, or in most cases, doesn't count. A rifle or shotgun will always trump a handgun. The armoured car folks are already behind the power curve regardless of what sits on the hip. Complacency, boredome, and lack of training will get someone killed
I must point out sernick.. (or however you spell his name)... he seemed to hit nothing with his shotgun meanwhile he himself was hit several times, so I beg to argue that a shotgun/rifle will trump a handgun... you said it yourself, its the operator not the weapon.

And yeah I totally agree... a LOT of people know what we carry what caliber, how many rounds we got on us, etc etc. I just don't believe in educating the public as to what it is we carry... if they don't know, than it's not their place to know. Simple as that.

Like I said, I've either confirmed whatever they 'believe' that we carry, or I just neither confirm nor deny whatever they believe. I just believe (as my partner put it) for the 'sake of self preservation' there is no need to say what we carry.

Paranoid? yes. it's what keeps me alert and not complacent like a lot of the 'old timers' seem to be. :p

if I carried a .45 on me... I wouldnt be advertising I carried a .45... why? it gives that much more info to the guy wanting to hit us. Why give out the info on a life saving piece of equipment? It's your (or mine) a$$ in the end.

*edit* ohh yeah... there's a reason that its company policy not to discuss such things... well they have their own reasons as well Im sure, but one of them is so that IF anything happens ignorance (for the robber) is bliss so to speak :p

Luke[/quote]

May the force be with you Luke.:ninja::rolleyes:
 
Hey - a little paranoia is healthy, keeps you from getting apathetic. Honestly though, why not spend the money on a pistol that you wouldn't be issued? art of the fun is that you get to buy what suits you to a T.
 
Just because it's not a big secret doesnt mean we should be discussing it... thing is... a lot of public is ignorant as to what we carry, and it makes it rather interesting when people come up to you and say...

"so yeah... you guys carry .45s?" (we always answer with a yes)... the less the public knows the better in my eyes.

And yes its not hard to see what we carry but you'd be surprised how many people aren't into 'revolers' or even semi-autos... and like I said... the less people know of what we carry the better.

Same goes for cops, etc.

Luke

I am a former employee of Brinks. If anyone has any questions about confidential material, I would be more than happy to tell them whatever they want to know.

You can't win Luke. ;)
 
LoL... great posts...

@ILPotatoes... you do know they can still Sue you and charge you for disclosing information... If you worked there for more than a week, they had you sign a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) and that still applies after you stop employment. Also whats not to say somebody here doesnt go out robbing your fellow employees, how would you feel if one of them ends up dead.

@Wally... If they would allow it about 40-75% of us would buy our own fire-arms... problem is the company would 'own' it while we're employed there. Also we would be limited to whatever fire-arm the CFO approves anyways so...

Oh yeah I do wear an aluminum hat... stops the radio waves from entering my brain... didnt you read "catcher in the rye"? ( ;) )

Also... the force is always with me.

Luke
 
I never signed an NDA for Brinks and I wasted five years of my life there. Ask me anything you like too, I have no loyalty to that ####hole of a company.
 
I asked out trainer at work when our Semis were coming. His plan is to have everyone in the shop trained and kitted by this time next year. Sounds like we're going to M&P .40s nation wide. Should be fun, considering I shot perfect scores on our qualifier with my 1911 (I was on the range for fun, slow friday, he was more than happy to let us shoot our own toys after we were done qualifying, as long as we didn't interfere with anyone who WAS qualifying) after I squeaked with one of the "Pool" Model 64s. I'm still drawing a pool gun, but the staff know my preferences in terms of sidearms, and when my number is up for a full time gun (three people ahead of me right now) I know which one I'm getting.
 
MPI,

A long gun will always beat a handgun. Greater accuracy, faster follow up shots(in most cases) greater capacity, greater barrier penetration and greater terminal effects. Unless the skill set is heavily slanted for the one with the handgun, the guy with the long gun will win.

What calibre is carried is a moot point. As a criminal planning an armoured car robbery, I could care less what they had strapped to their hip. at the end of the day it is only a handgun and level 3A soft armour will stop it. I see a revolver, I can confidently assume the security guard carries a maximum of 18 rounds, and will be slow to reload. If I see an auto I can safely assume that level 3a will still stop it and that the guard is most likely carrying 30 rounds. I'd avoid a handgun fight, that's far to fair. I'd show up with something centre fire. Like an AR or VZ58. Both defeat body armour which some guards wear overtly, not that it really matters. A night time hit would be to your benefit, as would a rifle mounted light. Fewer people out and about, fewer people to see what's going down or notice you and your partner(s) staging for the hit. Weapon light illuminates and blinds the guard as well as the custodian(that's the guy with the money). You remove the guard from the situation(disarm him preferably) and there is little chance the custodian carrying the money will draw his pistol, much less make an accurate dominant hand only double action shot before you swipe your selector to fire or slip your finger inside the trigger guard. he drops the money and moves his arms anywhere other than up, he gets shot. To be honest, it isn't worth dying for and no one I've met from any armoured car company would willingly die for someone else's money that is insured. If the bad guys wanted to kill you, they would have done it by now.

The windshield is not heavily armoured. I doubt it will stop centre fire rifle. More importantly, is the driver willing to take the chance and attempt to drive over a guy with a rifle trained on his head? Oh yeah, its standard policy for the driver to leave the scene if sh*t goes down. Again, I wouldn't hit the guards at the truck, I'd wait until they are out of sight so the driver cannot radio in the robbery. The truck isn't worth stealing because they're tracked by GPS(which is clearly marked on the outside the trucks). The guys who work the night shift are usually the new guys and may not know the neighbourhood all that well. Both major companies are union and the senior folks prefer to work days.

A hit during the colder months could mean the guards are wearing a toque which impedes their hearing, gloves which impedes their ability to draw and shoot. Their coat may cover their firearm(I've seen this many times). Cold weather means less daylight. Citizens generally close the curtains when its cold and dark, which aids the bad guys yet again. Oh and Christmas time means very large quantities of cash on hand.

All this and yet the calibre and make of their sidearm has nothing to do with how well I planned my fake attack. It takes brains and some forethought to be successful, not intimate knowledge of inconsequential equipment. The key is human nature.

TDC
 
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LoL... great posts...

@ILPotatoes... you do know they can still Sue you and charge you for disclosing information... If you worked there for more than a week, they had you sign a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) and that still applies after you stop employment. Also whats not to say somebody here doesnt go out robbing your fellow employees, how would you feel if one of them ends up dead.

I'm currently in school to get my Bachelor of Commerce. I have taken several business law courses and I did very well in each.

If you think you know more about the labour laws in BC, you're dead wrong. ;)
Don't believe everything you hear in the grapevine at Brinks. Believe it or not, what they tell you MAY not be true.

The non disclosure agreement only applies while you work there. They have no way of stopping any ex employees from saying whatever they wish. If you provide information to competitors about trade secrets, that is different. However, providing information about general operations is within your rights as a employee within BC.
 
All this and yet the calibre and make of their sidearm has nothing to do with how well I planned my fake attack. It takes brains and some forethought to be successful, not intimate knowledge of inconsequential equipment. The key is human nature.

There you go. Take anyone with a decent amount of common sense and intelligence and enough time to think up a plan (it may take some people months) and you've got a pretty tight robbery plan. If you rob a gaurd, they probably won't draw their gun on you anyways. They're not getting paid enough to be a hero.
 
Also you can take fire extinguishers and spray them outside of truck like batman to make fast getaway with minimal cover of tactics.:(.



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Discussion of illegal activity. Sorry fellas, I'm locking this even if it started out pretty innocently. We are being monitored and I ain't about to allow our responsible reputation at CGNutz to be compromised (or something like that.. :evil: )
 
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