Broken Discontinued PAL-Grade Air Rifle - Attempt to Repair or Throw Out?

[thegazelle]

Hi All:

I have a slight dilemma here I want to get your feedback.

I have a discontinued PAL-Grade air rifle, a Gamo Extreme CO2. It has been discontinued for probably close to a decade now. It is an interesting quirky gun, a CO2 based pump action revolving magazine air shotgun

The gun is broken - the slide/forend when moved forward, comes right off. It is supposed to be connected to a rod that hooks onto it, but I can't rehook it. I think it is also possible another part may have fallen out years ago.

This gun has ZERO support for takedown / reassembly from what I have seen. Airgun repair places won't touch it with a 10 foot pole, likely because they can't get parts for it. There are no YouTube videos on how to repair this and in looking online, no instructions either. The best I found was a UK based site that showed a schematic of all the parts in an exploded diagram but it doesn't say how everything interconnects.

Thankfully, there are not a ton of parts.

I decided to take the gun apart with an allen key. I have very little experience taking these things apart (though I did take apart my Hammerli 850 15 years ago to fix a lodged pellet - that took weeks). Some parts I have figured out where they went but others, not so much.

Here's the dilemma. My safe is at capacity. I don't mind keeping the gun IF I can fix it, but there comes a time where I have to do a time/value assessment on it. Part of the contributing factor here is that there is so little information on how to take part/repair this thing. Gamo will not help. Even established Canadian airgun repair shops will not touch this, and it is not worth the hassle of sending this to the US. There is some slight sentimental value here (it's the first PAL rated airgun I ever owned). But on the other hand, if it is broken it is just taking up room.

I am OK discarding it but if it is PAL grade air rifle, I supposed I just can't stick it with the garbage on the curb (I wouldn't want to do that anyway).

If you were in my shoes, what would you do?

 

[Grouse Man]

Sell it on the EE. Maybe somebody else needs the good parts.

 

[gallen270]

Yup throw it on the ee and lower the price til it goes. If you want it gone now post it for the cost of shipping.

 

[Maple57]

I have a buddy who is is getting old along with his air guns.

He has given me 3 in the last 5 years for repair that were deemed unrepairable by the official repair centers.

I fixed every one of them within about 2 hours, with a little head scratching and creativity. He was happy with every one of them.

If I were you, I would take it apart and noodle around with it. Sometimes the solution is more obvious that you probably think.

If you are not confident you can put it back together, then video record the disassembly so you have a reference if you get stuck.

 

[thegazelle]

I have a buddy who is is getting old along with his air guns.

He has given me 3 in the last 5 years for repair that were deemed unrepairable by the official repair centers.

I fixed every one of them within about 2 hours, with a little head scratching and creativity. He was happy with every one of them.

If I were you, I would take it apart and noodle around with it. Sometimes the solution is more obvious that you probably think.

If you are not confident you can put it back together, then video record the disassembly so you have a reference if you get stuck.

I agree with you, and like this solution, with the exception that my handy skills leave a lot to be desired.

The other problem is I believe it is POSSIBLE a part may be missing. I looked at the schematic and I don't think so.

At least your friend had a repair centre look at it. I couldn't get that far.

The other problem is that this is not a typical offering, so there's no other gun out there like it (pump action CO2 air shotgun) as of 2008/2009 or so (I don't know about now) - so it's not like I can take something similar, break it down and then go ah, I see and cobble up a solution. Without a reference point for how this SHOULD work, it is difficult for me to figure it out. I am curious why this went discontinued - maybe others encountered similar issues with it and the novelty wore off.

 

[Can-down]

If you eventually do decide to get rid of it, I would assume it's not considered a firearm if it's not capable of launching a pellet fast enough or with enough energy to be considered a firearm.

There are de-tuned versions of many PAL rated firearms.... it's the speed of the pellet and energy that is used to determine whether it meets the requirement to be considered a firearm.

Does it still shoot, but the foreend is loose or is it not operational?

Have you tried posting on the airgun forums?

 

[thegazelle]

If you eventually do decide to get rid of it, I would assume it's not considered a firearm if it's not capable of launching a pellet fast enough or with enough energy to be considered a firearm.

There are de-tuned versions of many PAL rated firearms.... it's the speed of the pellet and energy that is used to determine whether it meets the requirement to be considered a firearm.

Does it still shoot, but the foreend is loose or is it not operational?

Have you tried posting on the airgun forums?

It's considered a firearm - it has not been detuned. I even still have the long gun registry certificate for it. I think it shoots 700 fps. When I chronied it back then it was around 660 fps. I needed a PAL to buy it.

It doesn't shoot anymore, now that I disassembled it and can't figure out how to put it back together. I would say it didn't shoot when the problem started because the reason why the forend falls off is because it came off some long rod that looks like a very rectagular S shape. So it wasn't cycling the magazine and allowing the next burst of CO2 to be at the ready.

Yeah, one of my first posts is to see if anyone knows anything about the gun and if it can be repaired. There has not been any response, which is in line with the online searches I have done on this gun with regards to serviceability. I don't think its run in the market was a long one anyway.

 

[Can-down]

Can you see where the connection between the action rod and the fore-end failed? If it was together I'd be tempted to work the S shaped rod by hand and see if the connection to the foreend is the only issue.

Sounds like you need a local tinker with a knack for mechanics to have a look.... maybe just offer it up free for parts or potential repair?