Browning 725 12g 30 inch barrel sporting

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Hello.
Any opinion on this O/U

I hear about trigger issues
But local dealers here say they've never had issues

Shot skeet n sporting this week .... loved it
Shoulders a Silver Pigeon..great but felt small n light, shot one..
Shouldered the 725...felt so much better ...never shot though ..but seems heavier , I like that

Pros? Cons?
Is trigger issue and if so , is it fixable

Cheers
 
I shoot skeet, 5-stand and/or sporting twice a week with 6 guys or more guys with 725s, most are the sporting model. Zero issues with them that I've witnessed. Nice shotguns.
 
browninggold said:
I have a 20g 725 Sporting, absolutely love it. Had same in 12g, loved that one too. Never heard of any trigger issues.
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Have the same gun with 32” barrels into third year shooting it. Nice gun and no issues. Have a look at the 725 video on the Browning Web Site that explains the triggers and reduced size of the receiver.
 
Lots of shooters have had problems with the 725 triggers and often it's guys who have had tubes made or are shooting unusually light loads. This problem is often a failure to reset the trigger for the second shot and can usually be fixed with a trigger job but in some cases it takes a lot of tinkering on the triggers to get them to fire the second barrel. I've read that replacing the trigger block and and piston spring with one out of a 725 combo gun will fix the problem but I can't prove that. Also, I would say that this is not a gun you want to have tubes made for however while the bulk of the problems seem to lie with using tubes or very light loads there are lots of stories out there with guys having problems shooting normal trap loads too. Doubling, light strikes and occassionally having a very heavy pull are just some of the complaints and Browning has been known to replace complete trigger groups on customer guns. Browning has a good warranty on these guns and will take care of problems but who wants to deal with the hastle of having problems, then sending the gun away not knowing when it will come back or if it will come back in one piece.
Browning advertised the 725 as having mechanical triggers but they aren't true mechanical triggers becuase they still rely on inertia to reset the second trigger... they're sort of a bastardized afair. The part I can't figure out is why Browning decided to change what was a fairly sound design despite inconsistent trigger pulls and trigger take up and change it to a design which has been generally unreliable since day one! Lets face it, Browning has never been know for it's great shotgun triggers so I think they should have focused on making the old Citori trigger better. There has been at least one redesign of the 725 triggers since the guns came out so newer guns should be fine but the early models with the first generation triggers could still cause problems.
 
tinymike66 said:
Hello.
Any opinion on this O/U

I hear about trigger issues
But local dealers here say they've never had issues

Shot skeet n sporting this week .... loved it
Shoulders a Silver Pigeon..great but felt small n light, shot one..
Shouldered the 725...felt so much better ...never shot though ..but seems heavier , I like that

Pros? Cons?
Is trigger issue and if so , is it fixable

Cheers
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In regards to you thinking the Beretta felt small and light in comparison to the 725 you should consider this. The Silver Pidgeon you looked at may have been a field model whereas the 725 may have been a target model which will be heavier than a field model. Or, maybe you looked at a 725 Trap model which will be even heavier than a regular target model. You need to compare apples to apples but in order to do that you need to learn a few things about the guns themselves! Also, the Beretta receiver is shallower than the Browning receiver due to the locking lug being inder the barrels on the Browning and beside the barrels on the Beretta.
 
Falconflyer said:
Lots of shooters have had problems with the 725 triggers and often it's guys who have had tubes made or are shooting unusually light loads. This problem is often a failure to reset the trigger for the second shot and can usually be fixed with a trigger job but in some cases it takes a lot of tinkering on the triggers to get them to fire the second barrel. I've read that replacing the trigger block and and piston spring with one out of a 725 combo gun will fix the problem but I can't prove that. Also, I would say that this is not a gun you want to have tubes made for however while the bulk of the problems seem to lie with using tubes or very light loads there are lots of stories out there with guys having problems shooting normal trap loads too. Doubling, light strikes and occassionally having a very heavy pull are just some of the complaints and Browning has been known to replace complete trigger groups on customer guns. Browning has a good warranty on these guns and will take care of problems but who wants to deal with the hastle of having problems, then sending the gun away not knowing when it will come back or if it will come back in one piece.
Browning advertised the 725 as having mechanical triggers but they aren't true mechanical triggers becuase they still rely on inertia to reset the second trigger... they're sort of a bastardized afair. The part I can't figure out is why Browning decided to change what was a fairly sound design despite inconsistent trigger pulls and trigger take up and change it to a design which has been generally unreliable since day one! Lets face it, Browning has never been know for it's great shotgun triggers so I think they should have focused on making the old Citori trigger better. There has been at least one redesign of the 725 triggers since the guns came out so newer guns should be fine but the early models with the first generation triggers could still cause problems.
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My research came up with this as well. I couldn't figure out how different loads could effect a mechanical trigger so thanks for clearing that up. I shoot Brownings very well but can't get past the weight and depth of the receiver on most models. The 725 seemed to check all the boxes so one day I hope they will get the trigger problem resolved.
 
I think that a new gun would proably be fine but I still wouldn't get tubes for one.
I believe that Browning duped a lot of people into thinking the advertised mechanical triggers would be fine for tubes when in reality, they were inertia triggers and not sutible for 410 recoil at all!
 
Well I picked it up today
Definitely a beautiful gun ..feels n fits good
I guess I'll shoot n see how it goes
I'm a newbie to clays
It came with 6 invector DS chokes
Mint shape ... not a mark on it
 
Jump the gun as in?
I'm very receptive to opinions or constructive criticism.

I been shooting a Rem 3200 up until this buy.
Only trap.
Dabbled in skeet n sporting and found to enjoy then more.
So I opted for a sporting gun.

Shot the Win 101 ...was good gun.shot well with it.
Shot the Silver Pigeon 1 sporting....just didn't feel good though quality
Handled a citori cx
Handled the 725....felt the best of all I mentioned

So I saw one online, negotiated a reasonable deal , so I thought and here I am....lol.

But I. Always a ears for advice or thought fromexperirnced members...love the info.

Cheers
 
tinymike66 said:
Jump the gun as in?
I'm very receptive to opinions or constructive criticism.

I been shooting a Rem 3200 up until this buy.
Only trap.
Dabbled in skeet n sporting and found to enjoy then more.
So I opted for a sporting gun.

Shot the Win 101 ...was good gun.shot well with it.
Shot the Silver Pigeon 1 sporting....just didn't feel good though quality
Handled a citori cx
Handled the 725....felt the best of all I mentioned

So I saw one online, negotiated a reasonable deal , so I thought and here I am....lol.

But I. Always a ears for advice or thought fromexperirnced members...love the info.

Cheers
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The guns you like have little to no cast. I tried very hard to like the Beretta but it just doesn't fit me with the cast. I have shot or handled all of the guns above and like the feel of all of them. The 725 is probably in my future as well but I was hesitant because of reviews. I hope yours serves you well and please keep us informed.

You will probably find the SKBs fit you very well too. They are neutral cast as well but generally just a little bit shorter in LOP than the Browning.
 
tinymike66 said:
Jump the gun as in?
I'm very receptive to opinions or constructive criticism.

I been shooting a Rem 3200 up until this buy.
Only trap.
Dabbled in skeet n sporting and found to enjoy then more.
So I opted for a sporting gun.

Shot the Win 101 ...was good gun.shot well with it.
Shot the Silver Pigeon 1 sporting....just didn't feel good though quality
Handled a citori cx
Handled the 725....felt the best of all I mentioned

So I saw one online, negotiated a reasonable deal , so I thought and here I am....lol.

But I. Always a ears for advice or thought fromexperirnced members...love the info.

Cheers
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You chose well. Enjoy the shotgun. If you end up hooked like some of us, you have just gotten started.
 
I'm not knocking your choice of gun but it sounds like your relatively new to the shotguns sports and maybe I tend to over think things these days. When I started in the shotgun sports 30 years ago I already had years of experience with rifles and pistols so I figured I'd do alright with a shotgun purchase and just jumped in without knowing much about the equipment. My first purchase wasn't a distastfull experience but I soon learned that what I bought maybe wasn't the best equipment for the job and soon sold it for another. Many years, much research and many guns later I finally settled down with a gun that makes me very happy to shoot and am content to stick with it for a while... :) Actually, all that means is that I'll keep shooting it regularily but my collection will increase every time I see soemthing I like instead of trading the old ones off.
These days I generally advise new shooters to move a bit slower since there's many more gun makes and styles to chose from now than when I started. For instance, you mentioned that you also had a Caesar Guerini Summit in your sights and it's too bad you couldnt have tried one out because I'd chose one over a 725 or SP1, in fact I have one in 20 guage, not my primary sporting gun but its one I have high regard for. The Summit is CG's bottem end gun and the fit and finish of the wood and metal is better than Browning or Beretta and the triggers are superior to Browning triggers regardless if they are the old citori style or the 725 style. The ergonomics of the Summit are lovely! Regardless of that, you did the right thing by making your first gun a "B" gun, enjoy!
 
Have owned my 725 sporting 12ga 30" barrels since may 27 2012 ( first year of production ). the gun has been flawless to date . other than replacing the firing pins a couple years ago and a new recoil pad 2 weeks ago . have probably averaged 2500 rounds a year through it since 2012 .
 
The725 is probably the most common shotgun used at our sporting clays club. I had three, one in 12 gauge, one in 20, and one in 28, and had no issues with any of them.
 
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