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Went to Reliable gun today and picked one of these up and all I can say is WOW. I have been looking for a classic looking pump field gun for awhile now and have been disappointed with the newer wingmasters and have never really cared for the benelli novas or super novas. When I had first seen the Browning I passed it by thinking it had a big price tag and was floored when i found out one could be had for under 600 bucks.

I picked this thing up and instantly fell in love fit and finish is top notch. Found out after the fact it is built in Japan which I hope is a good thing. I tried the trap version and liked the fiber optic and mid bead but my fat face didn't sit right on the raised cheek piece. So I had them throw on a fiber and mid bead on a 12G 28" barrel hunter. Still like the engraving on the trap version though. And the fact it comes with 3 chokes from factory was a big bonus.

I had the browning, remmy, and benelli all right next to each other on the bench and I was surprised at the lack of quality in the new remmy as i was a remmy fan boy (my friend has an older one that is much tighter, better finish and feels over all more solid) and the benelli has the "rattle" which instantly drove me nuts and wasn't a fan of the all black kinda tacticool look at least thats what it looked like to me.

So for anyone looking for a great field shotgun check out a Browning BPS
 
A few years ago, I bought a NWTF BPS. I looked at an 870. The BPS was a fair bit more, but it came with 3 screw-in chokes (the Rem only came with 1 IIFC). It also came with a Hi-Viz after-market sight and a very solid trigger lock (I forget the brand). If you add up the cost of the add-ons, it brings the BPS's price down quite a bit, and the quality and workmanship can't even be compared.
 
On quality alone the BPS is a good choice. If only the currant U.S.A. made pump guns would come near the quality of J.A. Pan made Brownings. Too bad!
 
Cannot go wrong with a BPS. Bought my 1st one many years ago and it still works excellent. If I can make one suggestion make sure you wipe it down with an oily rag prior to putting it away after it is shot or out in the field.
They will rust much quicker than some other makes of pumps if you don't watch them.
Enjoy the gun.
 
3macs1 said:
Cannot go wrong with a BPS. Bought my 1st one many years ago and it still works excellent. If I can make one suggestion make sure you wipe it down with an oily rag prior to putting it away after it is shot or out in the field.
They will rust much quicker than some other makes of pumps if you don't watch them.
Enjoy the gun.
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It just looks like they rust faster because they don't have as muish plastic.
 
kamlooky said:
Twenty-eight gauge BPS sitting on the WSS rack in Kamloops.
Nice, nice, nice and $550 nice.
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I have looked at the BPS 28 quite a few times. The only thing that is holding me back is I have a torn rotator on my left side. I may get that fixed this year. After, I will get one as a get well gift to myself.
 
lil_juiced_coupe said:
Went to Reliable gun today and picked one of these up and all I can say is WOW. I have been looking for a classic looking pump field gun for awhile now and have been disappointed with the newer wingmasters and have never really cared for the benelli novas or super novas. When I had first seen the Browning I passed it by thinking it had a big price tag and was floored when i found out one could be had for under 600 bucks.

I picked this thing up and instantly fell in love fit and finish is top notch. Found out after the fact it is built in Japan which I hope is a good thing. I tried the trap version and liked the fiber optic and mid bead but my fat face didn't sit right on the raised cheek piece. So I had them throw on a fiber and mid bead on a 12G 28" barrel hunter. Still like the engraving on the trap version though. And the fact it comes with 3 chokes from factory was a big bonus.

I had the browning, remmy, and benelli all right next to each other on the bench and I was surprised at the lack of quality in the new remmy as i was a remmy fan boy (my friend has an older one that is much tighter, better finish and feels over all more solid) and the benelli has the "rattle" which instantly drove me nuts and wasn't a fan of the all black kinda tacticool look at least thats what it looked like to me.

So for anyone looking for a great field shotgun check out a Browning BPS
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You sure you where looking at an 870 Wingmaster and not the express?
The Wingmaster has a deep bluing, three choke tubes and some seriously nice wood that shows actual grain.
While the Browning is a very nice gun , I would not say it is a hands down better firearm in terms of quality or craftsmanship.
The BPS beats the Remington Wingmaster in price $560ish compared to $730 is for the Wingmaster.
I would challenge you to a field strip down the BPS compared to the Wingmaster under blue bird conditions and see just how easy the Remmy will beat the BPS.
I have owned both and enjoy them equaly,but found the Wingmaster easy peesy to teardown and reassemble with little or not tools save for a house key to pop two cross pins that hold trigger group in.
Rob
 
FLHTCUI said:
I would challenge you to a field strip down the BPS compared to the Wingmaster under blue bird conditions and see just how easy the Remmy will beat the BPS.
I have owned both and enjoy them equaly,but found the Wingmaster easy peesy to teardown and reassemble with little or not tools save for a house key to pop two cross pins that hold trigger group in.
Rob
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You don't need any special tools to dis-assemble the BPS either, I would suggest taking it apart the first time inside, but after that it isn't any different than any other pump. It is easy to put the bottome of the bolt in backwards ( not sure what to call the piece, anyone who has taken one apart knows).

The nice part about the BPS is that they have been consistantly good for as long as they have been produced. Even the Wingmasters aren't as good as they used to be. I find that they feel quite different to pump, you can feel the breech unlocking where as with the BPS you can't.
 
Turkeyslayer the BPS is easy until you try and get them lil bars inside the receiver that hold shells into magazine tube back in there respective places .....
It is a minor point, but really as I said the BPS and the 870 Wingmaster are very close, but not hands down...
Rob
 
It's an opinion thing, It is unfortunate that the Wingmasters have jumped in price so drastically they are good guns but I am afraid Remington may price them out of the " Working Pump" arena like Ithica did with the new 37. A nice thing with the 870 is the ability to throw a shell directly into the breech, you can do it with the BPS but it takes practice.
 
Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
You don't need any special tools to dis-assemble the BPS either, I would suggest taking it apart the first time inside, but after that it isn't any different than any other pump. It is easy to put the bottome of the bolt in backwards ( not sure what to call the piece, anyone who has taken one apart knows).

The nice part about the BPS is that they have been consistantly good for as long as they have been produced. Even the Wingmasters aren't as good as they used to be. I find that they feel quite different to pump, you can feel the breech unlocking where as with the BPS you can't.
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I wish I had your help when I first took my BPS 10ga totally apart. I was hours trying to get the receiver back together. Pure poison compared to 2 minutes with my wingmasters.
I would want to be shown how to take the Bps apart and reassemble if I was a new owner and I am very mechanical. I had no books or manuals also.Them two f*))^)n little bars are unreal to get back in place with just two hands.
 
Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
It's an opinion thing, It is unfortunate that the Wingmasters have jumped in price so drastically they are good guns but I am afraid Remington may price them out of the " Working Pump" arena like Ithica did with the new 37. A nice thing with the 870 is the ability to throw a shell directly into the breech, you can do it with the BPS but it takes practice.
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I have many of both and I think it is more than an opinion thing.If you compare it to today's wingmaster not one made in the 60's etc.
Price goes to the BPS a rem in that range is an express
Handling, tightness, smoothness of the action all go to the bps
Bottom ejection for me a left hander once again advantage bps
The disadvantages they do rust quicker, hard to get part for if you ever need them, more difficult to totally clean.
Lower resale value, unless camo
Just one man's 2 cents .
 
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Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
It's an opinion thing, It is unfortunate that the Wingmasters have jumped in price so drastically they are good guns but I am afraid Remington may price them out of the " Working Pump" arena like Ithica did with the new 37. A nice thing with the 870 is the ability to throw a shell directly into the breech, you can do it with the BPS but it takes practice.
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Ahh finally some common ground has prevailed, for this I Thank You !
I agree with you on the being priced out of being a "working Pump" that sees super duty in the punt or the blind.
Also you made a great point about being able to load a shell into the breech.
We didnt mention the fact that the BPS is ambidexterous for the three % of the population that shoots with the left hand;)

The two guns aside from price are pretty evenly matched
Now if we could only get them neck banded Mallards to only land in "Remington Country" I would be satisfied.
Tight Groups and Patterns TS !!

To the OP, please do not think I am raining on your new gun purchase as for the last month I have been weighing buying one in 20gauge, what has stopped me has been selection in barrel length, I can not seem to find one in 28''
Rob
 
I love the BPS. Its a great gun. To the OP, the only negative I ever found with the BPS is the weight. After a long day in the bush, my arms feel a few inches longer. If you can find the cantaliever slug barrel, find one. My BPS shoots out to 200yards with sabots nicely.
I wish I could find a rifled barrel with open sights for the BPS.
 
3macs1 said:
I wish I had your help when I first took my BPS 10ga totally apart. I was hours trying to get the receiver back together. Pure poison compared to 2 minutes with my wingmasters.
I would want to be shown how to take the Bps apart and reassemble if I was a new owner and I am very mechanical. I had no books or manuals also.Them two f*))^)n little bars are unreal to get back in place with just two hands.
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I agree with you,Mac.The BPS is quite something to get apart and back together.

I have a 28 gauge Browning BPS.
 
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