BSA International MK2 .22 info
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Thanks for sharing, I have always thought these were wonderful looking rifles. I have always wanted to handle one in person before pulling the trigger on one though. I always assumed the scopes were a much higher magnification. Surprised its 9x. I use a Hawke 24x scope and its small in comparison.
I get a bit of a chuckle out of seeing those spring-equipped scopes/mounts on those rifles. I think the only possible reason to put the spring on is so that you don't lose it in your junk drawer? 
Not mocking the guns, by the way. I'm not a connoisseur and don't know all the model variations and Marks and so forth, but I have a couple and they are favourite shooters.
Not mocking the guns, by the way. I'm not a connoisseur and don't know all the model variations and Marks and so forth, but I have a couple and they are favourite shooters.
The spring is a very positive return to battery feature.I get a bit of a chuckle out of seeing those spring-equipped scopes/mounts on those rifles. I think the only possible reason to put the spring on is so that you don't lose it in your junk drawer?
Not mocking the guns, by the way. I'm not a connoisseur and don't know all the model variations and Marks and so forth, but I have a couple and they are favourite shooters.
Very little tension required on a rimfire and perhaps a bit more in centerfires.
Had a Unertyl Ultra Varmint 2" 12X on a Remington 40XB in 6mm Rem and loved it.
Oh, I understand the purpose of the spring; on a big-bore rifle, the scope is well-protected by allowing it to slide under recoil and then the spring re-engages it without the shooter needing to manually push it back into place. I'm just questioning if the recoil of a .22lr in a heavy rifle like that will even move the scope in the rings at all?
There us a big difference between your Small framed Martini and a Martini International.
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Yes it sure will move it , even on a .22
I do not use the spring on center fires, in fact I rarely use it on my.22's, preferring to ul the scope back into battery manually each time to mitigate any issues that might result in jarring the cross hairs loose.
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Thanks, that's surprising and interesting to learn. I would have bet folding money that a rimfire in a heavy gun like that would not budge the scope.
I've only used one scope of that type, on a .45-70, and found it a bit disconcerting to feel the thing resetting itself. I much preferred manually resetting it; if you want something done right...blah, blah, blah.
This 15x Lyman Super targetspot has been on everything from .22 match rifles to 300 shortmag long range target rigs , it was used as a field testing scope with C.I.L. in the 50's , and now spends most of its time on my 8.15x46R Schuetzen rifle
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Here's my 1957 Mk2 International leftie, with its x18 Unertl Super Varmint with calibrated head.
I bought it about twenty years ago from a local dealer, complete with correct P-H diopter sights [front and rear] a Gehmann LH single-point sling and a counter-top plastic box bearing the words J G Anschutz on the lid. Inside were twenty-four sets of Anschutz foresight inserts.* Also in the deal was a well-made wooden box with a sliding top. Inside was a complete [apart from the actual diopter sight] set of Al Freeland's micrometer tube sights on shiny new Unertl POSA mounts. By a lucky fluke, the P-H diopter unit screws in perfectly.
I paid the princely sum of £55 for this lot - then about CAN$85-90.
The scope belonged to our club secretary, Les Tittman. He took over responsibility on my actual birthday, Saturday, March 2nd, 1946. He retired from the post on the same date, but in 2000. He continued to shoot, however, until the weight of the rifle he used got too much for him, and he had to shoot from sitting position. He died in 2004.
His widow could not imagine anybody being interested in his old gun, but it WAS a nice Winchester Model 52D, and got snapped up before I got a chance, but nobody wanted the odd-looking scope. The new club secretary, however, knew his market, and poked it into my chest one club night. 'Make me a GOOD offer', he growled, 'Emmy needs some ready funds'. It even had the very rare tapered scope case in nice leather - never seen one before.
I called up Dewayne Greiner in TX, Unertl maven, and got a good idea of the then-value, and paid the equivalent sum over in £s to the widow.
Everybody was happy.
Nice, eh?
*PS - I sold the Anschutz sight inserts for £30 a set. Almost paid for the whole shebang.
PPS - O DO have the recoil spring, and like the guy you laffed at, I've put it on the scope so that I don't lose it. The scope, BTW, has the much sought-after 1/8th minute dot reticle, and is as clear as the day it was made, sometime, according to Mr Greiner, in 1952.
I bought it about twenty years ago from a local dealer, complete with correct P-H diopter sights [front and rear] a Gehmann LH single-point sling and a counter-top plastic box bearing the words J G Anschutz on the lid. Inside were twenty-four sets of Anschutz foresight inserts.* Also in the deal was a well-made wooden box with a sliding top. Inside was a complete [apart from the actual diopter sight] set of Al Freeland's micrometer tube sights on shiny new Unertl POSA mounts. By a lucky fluke, the P-H diopter unit screws in perfectly.
I paid the princely sum of £55 for this lot - then about CAN$85-90.
The scope belonged to our club secretary, Les Tittman. He took over responsibility on my actual birthday, Saturday, March 2nd, 1946. He retired from the post on the same date, but in 2000. He continued to shoot, however, until the weight of the rifle he used got too much for him, and he had to shoot from sitting position. He died in 2004.
His widow could not imagine anybody being interested in his old gun, but it WAS a nice Winchester Model 52D, and got snapped up before I got a chance, but nobody wanted the odd-looking scope. The new club secretary, however, knew his market, and poked it into my chest one club night. 'Make me a GOOD offer', he growled, 'Emmy needs some ready funds'. It even had the very rare tapered scope case in nice leather - never seen one before.
I called up Dewayne Greiner in TX, Unertl maven, and got a good idea of the then-value, and paid the equivalent sum over in £s to the widow.
Everybody was happy.
Nice, eh?
*PS - I sold the Anschutz sight inserts for £30 a set. Almost paid for the whole shebang.
PPS - O DO have the recoil spring, and like the guy you laffed at, I've put it on the scope so that I don't lose it. The scope, BTW, has the much sought-after 1/8th minute dot reticle, and is as clear as the day it was made, sometime, according to Mr Greiner, in 1952.
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For those of you who want to know more about the history of BSA and its target rifles - THIS is the definitive document -
https://rifleman.org.uk/BSA_Martini_International_Mk.III.html
There is even a mention of one my more unusual rifles. I'll let you find it.
https://rifleman.org.uk/BSA_Martini_International_Mk.III.html
There is even a mention of one my more unusual rifles. I'll let you find it.
