xcaribooer
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I know this is the term for sporterized army guns but I am just curious where it came from.
Bubba'd
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BUBBA'd
The nickname BUBBA is American ...........depending on what state you may reside in it can be a positive term of friendship/nick name for a good buddy etc......and in some states... calling someone a BUBBA can also be used to indicate you feel this person is dumb/slow/a$$hole/moron /idiot etc........
This term started appearing on U.S Hunting/rifle/reloading type forums many years ago........
If some one started butchering wood and/or metal on Firearms (which offends a lot of gun people, collectors of milsurps and others) it had to be done by a moron or by " BUBBA ".........
Anything that was butchered became BUBBA'D.....
No doubt some CDN. up here, who frequented the American forums
introduced the term to this board.........
hs4570...........your mileage may vary
The nickname BUBBA is American ...........depending on what state you may reside in it can be a positive term of friendship/nick name for a good buddy etc......and in some states... calling someone a BUBBA can also be used to indicate you feel this person is dumb/slow/a$$hole/moron /idiot etc........
This term started appearing on U.S Hunting/rifle/reloading type forums many years ago........
If some one started butchering wood and/or metal on Firearms (which offends a lot of gun people, collectors of milsurps and others) it had to be done by a moron or by " BUBBA ".........
Anything that was butchered became BUBBA'D.....
No doubt some CDN. up here, who frequented the American forums
introduced the term to this board.........
hs4570...........your mileage may vary
- Location
- Tucson, Arizona
sporterizing is different
And requires a bit of expertise.
A bubba job means taking a military rifle, chopping the forend,with a saw, and throwing away everything ahead of that.
Other variations are painting the stock in camouflage colours, installing a badly fitting rubber recoil pad, milling off bits to install a scope mount, replacing the rear sight with something off a 30-30, checquering with a wood rasp, chopping a section off the barrel and putting on a ramp sight, carving his initials in the stock,Removing the charger bridge, varnishing the stock, and other idiocies.
In the end, bubba thinks he has "improved" the rifle. Bubba also has an aversion to cleaning the rifle after shooting milsurp, preferring to do that just before the next deer season.
In addition, Bubba often seeks out real rarities in military rifles to perform his magic on. such as No1Mk5's Long Lees, pre-war 98 mausers, Ross's etc,
I restored a New Zealand pattern CARBINE where bubba had chopped the forend, and thrown away the handguard and nosecap. Also a No4mk1T Trials rifle with a hacksawed forend.
Occasionaly you will still see articles in some magazines about "SPORTYIZING" Military rifles. The supply is finite, and once the butchery is done, replacement parts are getting hard to find or are nonexsistant.
A prize example if trying to find volley sights or forends for pre 1915 Enfields.
And requires a bit of expertise.
A bubba job means taking a military rifle, chopping the forend,with a saw, and throwing away everything ahead of that.
Other variations are painting the stock in camouflage colours, installing a badly fitting rubber recoil pad, milling off bits to install a scope mount, replacing the rear sight with something off a 30-30, checquering with a wood rasp, chopping a section off the barrel and putting on a ramp sight, carving his initials in the stock,Removing the charger bridge, varnishing the stock, and other idiocies.
In the end, bubba thinks he has "improved" the rifle. Bubba also has an aversion to cleaning the rifle after shooting milsurp, preferring to do that just before the next deer season.
In addition, Bubba often seeks out real rarities in military rifles to perform his magic on. such as No1Mk5's Long Lees, pre-war 98 mausers, Ross's etc,
I restored a New Zealand pattern CARBINE where bubba had chopped the forend, and thrown away the handguard and nosecap. Also a No4mk1T Trials rifle with a hacksawed forend.
Occasionaly you will still see articles in some magazines about "SPORTYIZING" Military rifles. The supply is finite, and once the butchery is done, replacement parts are getting hard to find or are nonexsistant.
A prize example if trying to find volley sights or forends for pre 1915 Enfields.
hs4570 said:
You have a point there, I have noticed that, it is very much an American term. You will never see anyone named or called Bubba up here...I wish we had our very own Canadian word for this disaster...I'll leave it to better minds than mine to figure out what it should be.
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- Atascadero, California USA
There are many theories about the dreaded Bubba and it's origins. One current idea is that Bubbas are minions of the anti-gun lobby ( thats the lobby right next to the larger anti-everything lobby ). Bubbas breed prolifically and no one will admit that they have one in the family. I have personally seen a Bubba in action and it was a horrible experience. There are references to Bubbas in surviving Roman texts, referring to a Bubbatum, a Roman Army slang term for a cut down Pilum. The Chinese are reported to have had a few Bubbas but these were executed after trying to sell short arrows for cut down crossbows. It is interesting to note that the Vikings had no Bubbas, another good mark in their favor. The American King of Bubbas was Bannerman who created many interesting " special " rifles which have since been sold as " rare Confederate experimental " the the unsuspecting. Bubbs can be found lurking in gun shows selling curiously shotened and " sporterized " rifles of sometimes unidentifiable origin. Various military surplus colector organizations have joined together to pool their money to have a chemical laboratory develop and anti-bubba spray, a Bubbacide if you will. Spray it on and the Bubba's legs get four inches shorter and then the hands fall off. Expected to be on the market in about four months and is going to be called, you guessed it, Bubba-b-Gone! Joe
There's a big difference between 'sporterised' and 'Bubbaed'.
Example:
A sporterised milsurp may have excess metal milled off and then reblued, and proper scope bases will be attached.
Bubba will either weld or epoxy some rusty angle-iron onto the receiver as his scope base.
Example:
A sporterised milsurp may have excess metal milled off and then reblued, and proper scope bases will be attached.
Bubba will either weld or epoxy some rusty angle-iron onto the receiver as his scope base.
Some fanatic milsurp collectors see any alteration of any military rifle as bubba
but I personally feel so long as it is a common rifle and the alterations are well done and tastefull I have no problem. There is even some historical provenonce for bubba as canadian WW1 sharpshooters often cut down the wood to keep it from warping and effecting accuracy. A brit soldier would be court martialed for doing the same thing. While it is unlikey it is possible that the T enfield "sporter"
could have been cut during the war and by restoring it (other than removing the horrid recoil pad) you are actually altering it's wartime appearance.
I am not saying it is probable only possible.
but I personally feel so long as it is a common rifle and the alterations are well done and tastefull I have no problem. There is even some historical provenonce for bubba as canadian WW1 sharpshooters often cut down the wood to keep it from warping and effecting accuracy. A brit soldier would be court martialed for doing the same thing. While it is unlikey it is possible that the T enfield "sporter"
could have been cut during the war and by restoring it (other than removing the horrid recoil pad) you are actually altering it's wartime appearance.
I am not saying it is probable only possible.
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- Manitoulin Island
Unless I missed the Red Green episode where it happend, I think he confined his depredations to K-cars, Vans and old large sedans. Another Canadinaized reference might be "Hosered" although I am not sure the McKenzie brothers got into milsurps - just beer. Anyway between the Belgians and the Americans they have pretty well cornered the Cdn. beer industry, so the hosers might have to move on to something else.
regardless of the origin or intent of the bubba, I strongly encourage their behaviour. Please, continue to chop up your rare rifles, especially your Enfields and Finn Mosins.
The more you destroy, the less there are, and the more valuable mine become. So keep up the work bubba(s).
The more you destroy, the less there are, and the more valuable mine become. So keep up the work bubba(s).
My Grandfather is a "Bubba". He knows that I know . His victim - an Enfield P17. Stock hacked, forearm & bands disgarded like a Norinco knock off at a gun show. Oh the horror.
I inherited it. The P17 is beyond restoring to it's glory, but with a new proper monte carlo walnut stock, and some metalwork done by Huntsman -it has become a sweet shooter. From the lemon, I have made lemonade (that weighs like 10 lbs on the hoof!).
Hakx
I inherited it. The P17 is beyond restoring to it's glory, but with a new proper monte carlo walnut stock, and some metalwork done by Huntsman -it has become a sweet shooter. From the lemon, I have made lemonade (that weighs like 10 lbs on the hoof!).
Hakx
