Buck Kicker choke
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I wasn't gonna bother arguing but my previous experience with ported chokes on a few different guns leads me to believe they do affect recoil in a meaningful way. Whenever I find a 1301 buck kicker I will gladly buy at least one.
I have the extra full Kicks choke on my Versa Max and it is fantastic with my buckshot patterns. If you like tight groups with buckshot, it does the trick. I load my own buckshot and my typical 14 pellet single aught loads will group a 4x4 inch pattern at 25 yards. I’ve tried other chokes, none have been this tight.
So you don't believe in muzzle brakes either? Or compensators? Diverting the gases and other ejecta, which can contribute up to 50% of recoil, does reduce felt recoil. If you are being picky and saying that the overall recoil energy is unaffected I guess you are right but that wouldn't be what we are worried about.
I didn't watch the whole thing, but from what I can tell he's comparing a factory cylinder choke to a choke with constriction and seeing improvement in pattern...cool.
If he screwed in a factory Beretta choke with similar constriction to these buck kicker chokes, my bet is he'd see a big improvement as well.
For IPSC shotgun competitions, 00 buckshot is used in some stages.
At the last world shoot I attended, we had paper targets out to 35 yards, with a penalty target right next to it.
The buck paper target is a 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper with scoring rings in it.
Remington low recoil 8 pellet buffered buck through a Benelli m2 with an IM choke, all 8 pellets on paper.
In fact all 8 holes could be covered with your hand.
When you've experimented enough, you figure out what works and what is mostly marketing.
Its all part of the fun.
A muzzle brake/comp will absolutely have an affect on recoil and muzzle movement.
You need enough gas pressure to act against the added surface area of the ports of the comp/brake to have any meaningful impact vs just exiting out the front of the barrel.
Holes in a choke tube have such little surface area to act upon that any affect the redirected gasses may have would be virtually imperceptible by us.
The choke in question here, the ports are angled forward by the looks of it, so what little gas pressure is remaining at the end of a shotgun barrel is still being directed forward, so what affect could it possibly have on recoil reduction?
Standard full chokes often produce horrible flyers out of a lot of guns though, at least with larger buckshot sizes and typical full power loads.
That he managed to get a considerably tighter pattern out of the Winchester Ranger 9 pellet load with the Buck Kicker than a with a FliteControl out of a cylinder choke, is pretty decent if you ask me.
Mind you, the Ranger is a low recoil load but even a full power load should perform well.
My testing of Buckshot satisfied me that conventional wisdom is wrong and that bigger shot, 000, and tighter chokes is the best, in fact I suspect patterns will hold up further than I'd want to hit something with a .36 round ball. Remington 000 and Full Choke far outclassed everthing else.
