So looking for something decently accurate but that won't break the bank. I've heard many mention CCI standard velocity. Definitely accurate for the price, but I found every 20-30 rounds or so I'd start getting failures to extract. I'd run the bore snake through a few times and she'd be good again but 20 rounds later same problem. I don't know if it is because they are full lead vs copper plated, but I wasn't having much luck. Gun is a savage mark2, is was thoroughly cleaned before I shot. Any thoughts or suggestions?
Budget precision ammo if there is such a thing.
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Should be able to run them 500+ rounds in any bolt action 22lr rifle before needing a cleaning. You might want to contact Savage and complain about the function.
CCI standard velocity 22lr is my go-to for budget accuracy in that $5/50rounds price point. The $10/50rounds ammo is only like 20% tighter groups.
CCI standard velocity 22lr is my go-to for budget accuracy in that $5/50rounds price point. The $10/50rounds ammo is only like 20% tighter groups.
This is a not uncommon problem with Savage MkII and CCI ammo. My understanding is its a wax build up in the chamber. I could be remembering incorrectly but I believe Ive seen someone post about talking to Savage and receiving a new extractor or extractor spring. Mine will do the same though it takes more like 50-80 rounds before I start to see the problem. A friend also has the same problem after about the same number of rounds as you. I ended up switching to SK Standard Plus which is a little bit more money but not ridiculous, $84 for 500 at tesro. Could also try SK magazine and see what you get with that if you want something slightly lower cost, $75 for 500 at tesro.
I have a B22, not MKII, but so far I haven't had this problem as some B22s have experienced. However, I've read that many MKs need 'extractor help' 
. Some solutions included 1) sharpen extractor, 2) add a second spring clip, 3) frequent chamber cleaning or cleaning the lube OFF the ammo.
I suggest you do some inet searches about this topic, especially on Rimfirecentral and SavageShooters in addition to this forum.
. Some solutions included 1) sharpen extractor, 2) add a second spring clip, 3) frequent chamber cleaning or cleaning the lube OFF the ammo.I suggest you do some inet searches about this topic, especially on Rimfirecentral and SavageShooters in addition to this forum.
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SK Rifle match shot really well in my Mk2
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Back when CanAm sold the Spec Ops 22lr I would have recommended that. It was cheap at 30$ a brick and shot exceptionally well for the price. Unfortunately its sold out now and I only got 30 bricks.
American Eagle red box 40grain solid.
Bought a ton when it was 4 bucks a box, probably more if you can find it.
Shoot this in all my bolt actions and the POI and groups are almost identical to the expensive Eley stuff I use.
Maybe in 4 five shot groups I’ll get a flyer or so, but that could also be me. I regularly shoot .75 inch groups with my CZs and Zastavas.
Bought a ton when it was 4 bucks a box, probably more if you can find it.
Shoot this in all my bolt actions and the POI and groups are almost identical to the expensive Eley stuff I use.
Maybe in 4 five shot groups I’ll get a flyer or so, but that could also be me. I regularly shoot .75 inch groups with my CZs and Zastavas.
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There are a lot of failures to extract with Savage MKIIs. What I have to do every so often is take out the extractors and clean them, and their groves, then reassemble them with either no lube, or with a thin bit of dry lube. Perhaps your MKII is about to do that with all ammo, as mine has gotten there, but for some reason only the CCI Standards are reaching that point, with their wax coating? I don't know but I hope this helps.
Even my Cooper rifles using Eley match grades will eventually produce some fail to extract.
I have a short rod to which I attach a 243 Tipton nylon brush with some Hoppe's.
Only go in far enough to just clean the chamber although I use the same brush and procedure to clean out any carbon ring.
The nylon brush will not break off with the reverse action like a bronze brush will.
I have a short rod to which I attach a 243 Tipton nylon brush with some Hoppe's.
Only go in far enough to just clean the chamber although I use the same brush and procedure to clean out any carbon ring.
The nylon brush will not break off with the reverse action like a bronze brush will.
I would say its a CCI wax thing... Have seen people with CZ 457's have the issue also. I currently have a mark 2 FV-SR and have had it fail to eject with CCI SV, but put a magazine of Center-X in it and it runs completely fine all day.
I agree AE is very good shooting ammo for the money. I have a friend who regularly gets 1 1/4" at 100yds with it. His guns also like CCI standard. I haven't tried AE at 100 but it will shoot slightly larger than 1/2" at 50 and sometimes smaller. This is from my At-One and a CIL/Anschutz 190. TC
Savages are know for extraction issues and many wild theories abound about how to correct it, but the most likely culprit is that they simply do not cut the extractor slot close enough to the chamber mouth to expose enough rim area for the extractor to grab. The solution is to remove some material from the extractor slot.
22's are very dirty to shoot, and the people that don't clean them probably don't clean their house or car either.No matches have ever been won with dirty rifles, and it is best to find ammo that our rifles like to shoot.CCi clean is one brand that might work, or try another brand with another coating and wax.I clean everything I own, including my house cats.
For first part of your question regarding decent ammo.
you will always heard ammo is widely variable from lot to lot even in the same brand and type. but usually Ii have good result out of SK product. SK std being best bang for the bucks. but RM is doing great also in most of my rifles. Over winter SK biathlon is doing a decent job.
testing different is the key.
good shooting.
you will always heard ammo is widely variable from lot to lot even in the same brand and type. but usually Ii have good result out of SK product. SK std being best bang for the bucks. but RM is doing great also in most of my rifles. Over winter SK biathlon is doing a decent job.
testing different is the key.
good shooting.
Cci and blazer were problems to extract in my mk11 after 30 or 40 rounds,i would have to carry a cue tip with me and that worked,then started shooting sk standard plus and sk rifle match and no extraction problems,also did the 50 yard half inch challenge with both.i did change my extractor claw a few years back and that helped,even used double spring but don't need that is I shoot the sk or lapua.im going to try a bunch of eley sport through it at our annual moose hunting 22lr contests we run or sorta run or just sorta shoot away competition lol.
Just my opinion on ammo that can cause problems. Many rimfire ammos use wax or wax and tallow mixtures as bullet lubricants. Nothing wrong there but it will build up and in our climate wax tends to get harder as the temps drop. A few rinfire ammo companies choose a synthetic lubricant, youll know when you load afew mags and the rounds start to slip or pop out of ur grasp. You will also not require handlotion after. Plusses and minusses to both. Eley is world renowned and for good reason but it uses wax or wax and tallow mix and is a killer in some savage and other rifles for extraction issues. Lapua and SK both use a synthetic lubricant for their ammo and both are produced by Lapua. So here is my opinion. Imagine wax at the base of a candle under the heat of the flame, it is liquid and flowing, now blow out the candle. Whats occured once it cooled? Now imagine that wax at minus 5,10 or 20. Now picture your car with Honey in the engine compared to synthetic engine oil at any temperature. My personnel experience is the synthetic lubed ammo is much more reliable in any gun. Ok so now your thinking why do the olympic shooters use Eley. Well they DO NOT MAINTAIN THEIR RIFLES LIKE THE VAST MAJORITY OF SHOOTERS. They do not worry about firing hundreds of rounds between cleanings and they do not use Savage guns. I have had exceptional accuracy out of numerous Savage firearms, especially my 338 Lapua 10BA, so this is not a bashing of them. Great rifle for the price but mass produced and prone to extraction problems. Just my observations and experience
