Bullet Prices

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I like to buy semi-local and I have dealt with Bullet Barn quite happily in the past, but in doing some comparison shopping today I was shocked to find that BB's prices are double that of Canadian BDX and substantially more than even the copper-plated Frontier bullets sold by Marstar/Higginsons. Is is just the economics of scale with the bigger boys or are BB's cast bullets really that special?

Per 1000 rounds

.38 Special 158 grain: Bullet Barn $110/BDX $59/Frontier $76

.44 240 grain: Bullet Barn $152/BDX $74/Frontier $108

.45 200 grain: Bullet Barn $132/BDX $69/Frontier $103
 
I think BB just increased thier prices due to high costs of materials, I expect we see increases across the board.

BB sells 500 bullets per box, is BDX the same?
 
Just as a side note
the price of lead 4 months ago around $900.per MT
Now around $3000 per MT
Still wonder why prices are going up
John
 
I was in a local shop this past week when the cops were in there talking about upcoming requirements. Shop management was overheard telling them to prepare their budget people for some massive sticker shock on near-term purchases including but not limited to ammunition. I wish my PAL would hurry up and get here, I am stocking up the day it hits the mailbox.
 
johnone said:
Just as a side note
the price of lead 4 months ago around $900.per MT
Now around $3000 per MT
Still wonder why prices are going up
John
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And as a matter of fact I am wondering why ammo prices are going up like they are. Lets use your numbers. At $900 per MT, (which was well over a year ago) 50- 180 grain lead bullets used to cost about 0.52. At $3000 per MT, those same bullets cost about $1.75. Hmmm......doesn't quite add up to the 40% or $9.00-$15.00 a box we're seeing.


I'll bet if you keep repeating that, though, at least some sheep, I mean, PEOPLE will believe you.......
 
JOE NWT;
Good morning, well large manufacturers don't have to "add up" or make sense they are like the government, they do whatthey want....
The very reason Winchester imposed 3 seperate increases on us over the last 9 months, with another one for 15% (ammo) 16% on components, effective Sept 1st.
BTW my metal prices are based on the London metals market....
For example your typical .38 bullet uses about 20lbs of lead per M a few months ago that was about $10.oo now almost $30. That's metal alone never mind labor and overhead....
You just can't win
John
 
with the way things are going... Ammunition Manufacturers have become just like the Oil Companies.
They have a product only available from them....and there is no way to verify what the actual costs are. So they can charge whatever they want.
It sux.... but what can you do.

Inflated Profits = Money Grubbing Scum
 
johnone said:
JOE NWT;
Good morning, well large manufacturers don't have to "add up" or make sense they are like the government, they do whatthey want....
The very reason Winchester imposed 3 seperate increases on us over the last 9 months, with another one for 15% (ammo) 16% on components, effective Sept 1st.
BTW my metal prices are based on the London metals market....
For example your typical .38 bullet uses about 20lbs of lead per M a few months ago that was about $10.oo now almost $30. That's metal alone never mind labor and overhead....
You just can't win
John
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That's just it. If the price of a 1000 bullets went up $20 in one year, that would of course be understandable. But a $10 increase for 50 in a box of ammo can only be explained by one thing:

Assyrian said:
with the way things are going... Ammunition Manufacturers have become just like the Oil Companies.
They have a product only available from them....and there is no way to verify what the actual costs are. So they can charge whatever they want.
It sux.... but what can you do.

Inflated Profits = Money Grubbing Scum
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You seem to have disposable income, they seem to want as much of it as they can get.

If prices were based on the materials or the manufacturing costs, why do 1000-115grain 9mm bullets cost less than 500-230grain 45 cal bullets? Same weight of material, less manufacturing costs in the 45, yet they cost more. Why?

I think because guys with bigger guns should expect to pay more to shoot them.:evil:
 
Like I said JOE, it does not have to make sense....
Just like the oil companies who all happen to raise their prices by the same amount just before a holiday week-end.... Coincidence ?

Or how about the recent story that gasoline prices dropped because the recent hurricane did NOT hit the rigs in the gulf, can someone explain ?

We are ALL at the mercy of large corporations, remember the "golden rule" he who has the gold makes the rules.
John
 
I think that one should be more concerned about the quality of those bullets, their designs, etc. Do they offer dif. alloys of your choice? Dif. diameters? Dif. Lubes? The best designs usually have numerous lube grooves, sharp edges, not designs meant for ease of production. For Black Powder, they should be quite soft, say 30-1 or 20-1 and have proper BP lube. For lower velocities in handguns they should be of medium hardness, and for higher vel. in pistols or rifles they should be hard or linotype and possibly gaschecked...do these outfits offer those choices? No...because it costs more and slows production...check out MT Chambers' lineup of cast bullets from .22cal. to .577cal. and round balls to .715"(12 gauge).
 
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