I have both. The collet pulled doesn't work on cast bullets. It just strips off a bit of the outside of the bullet. I have and RCBS inertia (hammer type) puller and a Frankfort Arsenal. The RCBS one snapped off just below where the screw on cap goes. The Frankfort Arsenal one is still going strong. In defense of the RCBS, it's seen a lot more action than the Frankfort Arsenal.
Yup, sometimes you need both to pull the bullets.
Some types of milsurp ammo have only the contoured forward section of the bullet to try to grab onto.
Often, this just doesn't work.
I've been in situations where I have to use a kinetic puller to "start" the bullets, then finish the job with the crimp type Forester or RCBS pullers.
Whichever method you use, it's a PITB.
The only bullets I will even cosider pulling now are my own or other people's handloads that I don't trust.
Everything else that is shootable, will be shot out of whichever firearm it fits.
Considering how long it takes to pull bullets and maybe even damaging them in the process, it just isn't usually worth the effort.
I even rechambered an old bubba'd long action K98 to 8x63Swede so that I could shoot the cheap surplus ammo I have. I believe, in the end I actually saved money.
The barrel was $10, the reamer was $80 and the action/trigger was free. The stock, is just a cut down milsurp stock and I already had the scope, mounts and rings.
This rifle loves that old milsurp stuff.
I bought several thousand rounds of it to pull the 196 grain boat tail bullets and maybe salvage the powder. The cost on this stuff, from Ontario to BC was about the same as if I had just bought a bunch of fmj bulk bullets. I didn't think I could loose.
I was wrong, those bullets were buried very deep in the necks so that the only part of the bullet showing was the curved ogive. They are also sealed into the cases with some type of black tar like sealant.
There was a thread here a long time ago about making up a special plate with a hole, slightly larger than the bullet. The idea was to push the bullet into the plate and wiggle it back and forth to break the seal for easy pulling.
Once the rifle was put together though all of that changed. It was surprisingly accurate ammunition, considering it was built for Swedish machine guns and the few thousand K98s they had converted to shoot it as well.
My first idea was to build up a clone of the rare Swede rebuilds. They sold most of them to Israel. The big problem I had was finding a milsurp stock to fit the action and making up a suitable muzzle brake as found on the originals. I didn't have a lathe at the time and the action I had was already D+T'ed etc. So it makes a very nice and very powerful sporter.
Right on par with the 35 Whelan and 338-06.