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Hey Im about to get into bullseye competition and need to aquire a very accurate 22 and 45. Any suggestions would be appreciated in terms of make and model.
 
In 22lr: Ruger Mark III Target, I have the Target and the Target Hunter, both extremely accurate.

In 45: I have the Remington R1e (enhance), very accurate out of the box.
 
My 2 most accurate 45's.

Sig P220 x6

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NHC Costa 1911

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both these guns are incredibly accurate and reliable
 
Getting back into 'a bit' of formalized Bullseye and picked up these four .22's to try.



Haven't yet decided which will stay and which will go:redface:.

For .45's, this custom 1911 belonged to an old shooting buddy and gunsmith friend I used to shoot with when I was hot & heavy into the Bullseye game. He did the work on it and it was his personal centerfire. For sentimental reasons, I couldn't resist when I got the opportunity to purchase it.



Then, I also lucked into this top of the line Kimber Super Match II from their custom shop.:cool:Posted this previously, but out of the .45's I have had and still have, this one is the sweetest of the bunch:D.



Now,;) to get at it.
 
For the .22, go with pardini SP or Walter GSP or GSP expert.
If you're thinking NRA, the pardini can be had with scope rail.
For the .45 a Sig 220 x-5 would be my gun of choice, but for money reason I settled with a sig TTT with adjustable combat sights. I use the same gun in IDPA competition.
 
For the .22 I would look for a S&W model 41 and for the .45 I would look for the Colt Gold Cup Trophy. Just my two cents worth.

Graydog
 
Instead of jumping into the gun issue I'd like to ask what you have now that you're using and how well do you shoot with it? Often it's not the gun so much as the shooter.

But if it gets down to a matter of guns and you don't want to bust the bank some of the Ruger Mk III guns with a few add ons can be DARN accurate. Next up the cost ladder in my books would be a S&W Model 41. From there you jump to some of the classic Browning and Hi Standard target guns from back when Hi Standard really was a high standard. Beyond that you're looking at the dedicated bullseye guns such as the Pardini that was already mentioned.

For a .45 I would heartily suggest spending the cash for an STI Rangemaster. I've shot a bunch of 1911's and they all did pretty good. But the two magazines I shot through a Rangemaster hit the target as though they were radar guided. That and the Rangemaster's trigger was as good or better than a couple of the custom 1911's that I've gotten to shoot.
 
Depends on the shooting discipline you are aiming for I think.
Example: For 50 meter Pistol I use a Hammerli Model 150, and if I wished to attend Sport Pistol I would feel just fine with my Ruger Mk II.

And there are so many good 1911 platform choices these days.
 

ok that picture is starting to p*ss me off...... because i can't find one anywhere.

it seems like sig in canada is now only bringing in the new x-series with all the angles and the tactical rail which doesn't do it for me aesthetically (though i get the functional benefit as it is easier to add optics)

Seriously that is my grail 45. I settled for the 226 x5 but really wanted the single stack with the 6" barrel.
 
For 22 I have a smith 41 and a 46, great guns. Most guys that I shoot with are shooting the Walther GSP's which are very nice and if you get the 32 conversion for it you are shooting the same gun in 22 and centerfire. I've thought about getting one of these but my existing guns are still far more accurate than I am so there is no real hurry. For 45 I have a Dlask 1911 Pro on order which should do the trick. A lot of guys are using 1911's, anything from tuned Norinco's to STI's. I would suggest that you don't to too crazy at first because depending on your skill level most likely the gun will outshoot you for a while until you have a lot of practice under your belt.
 
SW 41 is very popular. Though not designed as a match pistol, this is an extremely accurate pistol from the box. With little mods, a Ruger Mk series or a 2245 might do it at half the cost of a new SW 41. Browning Buckmark Contour is also a good option. Both Ruger and Browning needs trigger work. For a .45 cal, try your luck in finding a used Colt National Match. Otherwise, you will have to go for a pricey Kimber Gold Match or a cheaper STI Trojan. Both Kimber and STI carries the top-of-the line and cheaper models that will suit your requirement and budget. You might also consider reloading since with bullseye shooting, you need to develop your load for accuracy. Otherwise, you will have to spend more in finding a better ammo.
 
Here ya go. Mid entry level for bullseye.
Smith and Wesson M41 7" .22LR
STI Targetmaster 5" .45ACP
Package deal this week for $3G and I will throw in the secret .45acp load.:)
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Contrary to some of the recommendations above, I suggest that you begin by spending time at a club that focuses on ISSF and NRA, try out some of the pistols that the competitors are using, shoot a match or three with borrowed guns and then purchase what works for you. Smith M41s were top line pistols back in the 50s thru 70s, as were the various HiStandards. I have run the gun check at the National matches for several years and the usual things I see are Walther GSPs, Pardini SPs, the odd Hammerli 208, and 280, or SP20. Only one M41 came thru last year, no HiStandards, no Rugers. Match Gun MG2 s are starting to appear more regularly.
i would suggest that you back off from a 45 for a year or two. Look at the matches that you will shoot. ISSF has air pistol, 50 metre (free pistol), standard, sport, and rapidfire, all shot with a 22 pistol, and centrefire which must be 30 - 38 calibre. NRA does the basic sloe, timed, rapid sequence for 22 , any centre fire, and 45. So five of the matches go with a 22 --- buy the best you can get if you go into the game seriously. Centrefire is easier with 32SWLong, and the Walther, Pardini, hammerli 's all have these available so you can shoot seven of the matches from a common platform. Then you might consider a match grade 45 but NONE of the commonly seen or recommended 1911s are up to snuff as they come from the factory, you will, in Canada have to convince an old shooter to sell you his tuned bullseye gun, and the Clark's, Marvel's, Baer's, or classics from the pre-98 world will not be cheap. But then I've only been a bullseye competitor for 39 years, so my data may be suspect, eh?

Dr Jim
 
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