Burris Signature Zee rings + VX3i on Rem 700 in 7mm-08: fitment problem

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I can't do pictures right now, so please bear with me. If necessary, I can try to get some photos up later this week to clarify the issue.


I Recently purchased a Rem 700 in 7mm-08 as my first hunting rifle. It has the mountain contour and it came with Weaver bases. There does not appear a way to switch them around to make the distance between the slots any shorter.


I have a VX3i 2.5-8x36 to go on top. Rings arrived yesterday, and I attempted a fitting this past evening. No problem fitting the rings to the bases (Burris Signature Zee, 1"), but I'm running into a problem with the riflescope:

The problem:

With the back ring pushed forward against the base slot, and the front ring pushed back in its base slot, the Pos-Align insert on the front ring is sitting where the tube angle starts to change for the objective, such that the tube cannot be pushed down into the ring, and the ring cannot clamp down. The rear ring is sitting tight against the magnification adjustment. There is absolutely no room to move the scope forward or backwards.

This seems odd to me. It's as if the base slots are too far apart for the tube length of the scope. Even 1/4 inch would make a huge difference.

I feel there must be quite a few short action 700s out there with the previous VX3. Both the VX3 and the VX3i are listed as having tubes that are 5.1 inches.

I'd like to hear from others with the same or similar setup, or options on how to deal with the situation.
 
i think I know what you're getting at.

On some of the 2 pc bases, the slots aren't exactly "centered" on one of the rails. Where the slot is closer to the "front" of the rail section then the rear. In those cases, the guy just rotated that base section 180 degrees to get the ring more to the "rear".
If your rail sections are exactly centered, then you're probably sol.
 
By the way, both rings should be pushed forward against the inside of the slot in the base. That's where recoil will push them.

There is such a thing as a short action 700 receiver, but they aren't always (or even often?) used. You probably have a long action receiver. The VX3 2.5-8 is a very short scope. I know it's caused me problems.

Take a look at whether reversing the front base can help you out. If not, you need Warne extension bases, or even Weaver top mount bases, which cost virtually nothing. Make sure the front base is an extension base.
 
Or get a set of extension (extended) rings (google that).

Most of the ring makers have at least one model of them (Burris, Weaver, Leupold etc).

There is even one brand model out there where both of the rings have an extension so that you can mount a very short tube on a long action.

This is what I'm talking about
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They also work great if you need more eye relief than two piece bases will allow for.
 
Burris XTB 2pc steel bases... built like a tank and have addn slots - very well priced

If that still doesn't work, 1pc pic rail. For a hunting rifle, I prefer the 2pc base for easier access to the action interior

Problem solved.

Jerry
 
According to Remington, the 7mm-08 is a short action, but I haven't the experience to say whether that is the case with every -08 they've manufactured. Worth a thought.

I think the current bases are symmetrical but I'll have to take another look to see if I was looking at them cross-eyed.

I'd prefer to stick with a two piece base as this rifle currently has a blind magazine, and I'd really rather not buy yet another set of rings. The XTB bases look like a great option with their extra slots.


Thanks for all of the suggestions. So far you have given me some good ideas, and validated a couple of other thoughts.
 
BigD_83 said:
According to Remington, the 7mm-08 is a short action, but I haven't the experience to say whether that is the case with every -08 they've manufactured. Worth a thought.

I think the current bases are symmetrical but I'll have to take another look to see if I was looking at them cross-eyed.

I'd prefer to stick with a two piece base as this rifle currently has a blind magazine, and I'd really rather not buy yet another set of rings. The XTB bases look like a great option with their extra slots.


Thanks for all of the suggestions. So far you have given me some good ideas, and validated a couple of other thoughts.
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If your ejection port is shorter than a loaded round of 7-08, making loading the rifle a pain in the butt, it is a short action receiver. If the ejection port is longer than a loaded round of 7-08, it is a long action receiver.

I am not surprised that Remington informs you that 7-08 is short action. It is. We are trying to determine if your receiver is short action length, or long action length.
 
Bartledan said:
If your ejection port is shorter than a loaded round of 7-08, making loading the rifle a pain in the butt, it is a short action receiver. If the ejection port is longer than a loaded round of 7-08, it is a long action receiver.

I am not surprised that Remington informs you that 7-08 is short action. It is. We are trying to determine if your receiver is short action length, or long action length.
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I see your point. I didn't think there could be a long receiver with a short action and vice versa. Another bit of information learned.

Either way, long or short receiver, I still have to manage a solution.

Here are the current bases in place:

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Unless those parts can switch places, it looks to me like I'll have to track down new bases.
 
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Mystic Precision said:
Burris XTB 2pc steel bases... built like a tank and have addn slots - very well priced

If that still doesn't work, 1pc pic rail. For a hunting rifle, I prefer the 2pc base for easier access to the action interior

Problem solved.

Jerry
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This is a great solution to that problem. I swapped out the bases on my axis to the XTB's and it made the rifle a lot easier to mount the scope properly.
 
That's a long action receiver, and those look like Weaver bases.

The weaver front base for the Remington 700 has a centered slot, but the rear *doesn't*, so you might have two front bases. That won't work.

Edit: just looked again. That rear base isn't a front base :)

Get the extension front base, and be sure it's the proper rear base, and good to go. You're $6-$12 away.

Have you looked at the weaver base chart?
 
Bartledan said:
Get the extension front base, and be sure it's the proper rear base, and good to go. You're $6-$12 away.

Have you looked at the weaver base chart?
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I did a search as I had a recollection that there was such a thing as an extension base, but didn't see what I thought I was looking for.

I'll have another look.
 
Found it, Bartledan!

For future reference to anybody else looking, or for myself when I completely lose it, the extended base for the rem long-actions is a Weaver #40A (blued, -M:matte, -S: silver). Of course, WSS doesn't have it, but I do have some XTBs coming sometime this week.
 
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