Butche's not getting copper out.

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just scrubbed my barrel for probably an hour putting patch after patch through barrel soaked in butche's followed by a dry patch, over and over. I can still see copper streaks in the barrel when I shine a light in the muzzle end. Should I even worry about this or just leave it?
 
Try the above method, then if that doesnt work, try this.

1.) start a patch wet with your solvent and a cleaning rod, just into the throat area to seal the chamber end.
2.)tilt your rifle to drop a dozen or two drops of your solvent down the bore.
3.)put a piece of duct tape over the muzzle to seal off barrel.
4.)set rifle in a horizontal position to let the solvent spread over a large area inside the bore.
5.) wait 15 minutes or so, pull off the tape,push the patch the rest of the way through the bore.
6.) inspect the bore.

I seal the bore so that all the fumes that do the work to dissolve the copper dont disapate/evaporate into the air as you wait. They stay inside the bore where they need to do the work.

If this doesnt do it, repeat with brushing between soakings.
If this doesnt help after 1-3 trials, you may have a very fouled bore, or you need a more aggressive cleaner.

I have used "Sweets 7.62" copper solvent this way and never had a problem removing stubborn copper fouling.

Some guys use industrial strength ammonia, but I have never tried it.
If you do, make sure you have good ventilation. And be sure to get all of the ammonia cleaner out of your bore. Do not leave ammonia in your barrel for extended times. (15-20 minutes is about all you want to do).
Good luck bud!

Dont worry too much about a small streak. Just as long as you dont let it accumulate too much over time.
 
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Patching it over and over isn't the way to do it... let it soak...

I use JB Bore cleaning paste first on a good brush for 20 full strokes to remove the worst of it and then soak with a copper remover and then dry patch, oil and dry patch.
 
I have found that Butch's isn't that good in removing copper. It is fairly good at taking out fouling though. Try this regime. Clean out the carbon fouling using the new Hoppes (not #9). This new stuff doesn't smell and works very well. Once the fouling is gone use Patchout (Wipeout) and the Accelerator to remove the copper. I have found that Wipeout (Patchout) doesn't remove carbon fouling, BTW. Once there is no copper present, try one patch of Barnes CR10 to check. I have never found any if the Wipeout comes out clean but I do try every once in a while. Then oil the barrel and remove the oil after. I do this to all my match rifles and it really works well. Steve
 
Lots of guys are saying sweets 7.62 eats up the copper nice. Where can I order some of this from? Sinclair won't ship it to Canada.
 
I recently grabbed a bottle of KG-12 (http://www.kgcoatings.com/cleaning/kg-12-big-bore-cleaner/) after hearing some really good things about it. Quite impressed with it so far. It contains no ammonia, so doesn't pose a risk to your steel parts and doesn't need to be "neutralized" after use - like Sweets and other harsh solvents.

Just scrub the bore with a nylon brush and KG-12 (20 'back-n-forth's), then let soak for 20 mins and dry patch until clean. The copper is gone.

I've been using Sweets to test afterward, allowing a full 15mins to soak - have yet to get any blue out =)

You can grab it from the Burke's Gun Oil site or Coretac Solutions (both Canadian sellers).
 
Haha I will have to try KG12 but I have to bottles of butches. I will still use it until I get copper that is sticking in there then bust out the more potent stuff.
 
Yes, as already been said, Butches is the pits on copper. Match barrels typically don't copper when shoot in small amounts.

Barnes CR10 is likely the best copper remover I have used from a commercial product. Everything I have used is so much slower. I am interested in cleaning measured in a few minutes vs hours or days.

I now use Janitorial grade ammonia to clean both powder and copper. Does a great job for dirt cheap.

Stinks to high heaven so only use it outdoors.

Jerry
 
Just pushing a few patches of your favorite lubricant through your bore will do.
Just be sure to leave only a very LIGHT film of oil in your bore!
You dont want any hydraulic damage in your bore.

Have fun and straight shoot'in fellow gunnutz!
 
NO, I just patch it dry and leave it.

So far, there has been no issues with rust. If you live in a high humidity environment, then some rust preventative is a great idea.

I live in a semi arid area.

Jerry
 
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