Buying a m24-47 from Marstar?

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Hi there,

I'm new in this forum( I already posted my greeting message) and I'm buying my first military rifle, particularly a Mauser 8mm rifle. I see Marstar only has M24-47 in good condition in stock for 350$. Is it a good choice as a good shooter gun? What is a "good condition gun"? Does that mean it's shootable or it means it looks good? Tradeex has a vz24 in excellent condition too. Isn't this better?

Help me please.

Matt
 
youfang said:
Hi there,

I'm new in this forum( I already posted my greeting message) and I'm buying my first military rifle, particularly a Mauser 8mm rifle. I see Marstar only has M24-47 in good condition in stock for 350$. Is it a good choice as a good shooter gun? What is a "good condition gun"? Does that mean it's shootable or it means it looks good? Tradeex has a vz24 in excellent condition too. Isn't this better?

Help me please.

Matt
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If Trade EX says excellent condition it will be like new .
Everything I have purchased from them has been better than described.
 
The VZ24's are russian captures, they are refurbed to externally "like new", but generally the bores will be dark. Usually the crest is also scrubbed off the receiver.
 
Claven2 said:
The VZ24's are russian captures, they are refurbed to externally "like new", but generally the bores will be dark. Usually the crest is also scrubbed off the receiver.
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That sounds like the way to go! VZ24! That would make me feel better shooting a nazi rifle that was ripped out of the hands of a German prisoner. And could have been used to take the fight to the nazis!!!

It amazes me that these countries packed up all these rifles and put Cosmo on them to keep them preserved for future use. Canada didn't do any of this that I know of.
 
Nelson84 said:
That sounds like the way to go! VZ24! That would make me feel better shooting a nazi rifle that was ripped out of the hands of a German prisoner. And could have been used to take the fight to the nazis!!!

It amazes me that these countries packed up all these rifles and put Cosmo on them to keep them preserved for future use. Canada didn't do any of this that I know of.
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Just curious, how do you know Tradeex VZ24s are russian capture? There is nothing to this extent on their website, and even it it were...
 
If it's a shooter you want, the bore condition is far more important than the stock and other external surfaces. An overall "Good" firearm could still have a VG or better bore - I'd ask Marstar for more info on the 24/47.
 
Call TradeEx, and if you find something you like- do business with them.

They are very good people, you will not be disappointed.
 
I'm not a "big wheel", lol, but Tradex is the importer for all the VZ24's currently on the Canadian market, all the dealers got them from Tradex, but some dealers went to the Montreal warehouse and hand-picked the best ones (like P&S, for example).

They are all RC's. When you see them in person (I have owned two from this batch), you will see the serialized parts are electro-pencilled, the metal is reblued, the lower stocks are new post-war manufacture (nice walnut though) and the handguards are original wartime ones with much more wear than the stocks.

Decent rifles if you get one with an un-scrubbed receiver and decent bore. Much better "axis rifle" buy than an RC k98k IMHO, and at half the price.

The only non-refurb Czech, Bulgarian, Slovakian or Czech-issue VZ24's in Canada are WW2 bringbacks. Not an easy rifle to find in non-refurb configuration.

I hope that helps! :)
 
Claven2 said:
The VZ24's are russian captures, they are refurbed to externally "like new", but generally the bores will be dark. Usually the crest is also scrubbed off the receiver.
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Unfortunately, that's very true. They are so dark, that even scrubbing for a week doesn't help.
I got rid of mine long time ago and lost $200 doing so.
Better buy the Yugo from Marstar.
 
Thanks guys for your replies. I was not expecting that many replies after I posted my thread this morning. Members in this forum are wonderful.

Thanks again.
 
Claven2 said:
I'm not a "big wheel", lol, but Tradex is the importer for all the VZ24's currently on the Canadian market, all the dealers got them from Tradex, but some dealers went to the Montreal warehouse and hand-picked the best ones (like P&S, for example).

They are all RC's. When you see them in person (I have owned two from this batch), you will see the serialized parts are electro-pencilled, the metal is reblued, the lower stocks are new post-war manufacture (nice walnut though) and the handguards are original wartime ones with much more wear than the stocks.

Decent rifles if you get one with an un-scrubbed receiver and decent bore. Much better "axis rifle" buy than an RC k98k IMHO, and at half the price.

The only non-refurb Czech, Bulgarian, Slovakian or Czech-issue VZ24's in Canada are WW2 bringbacks. Not an easy rifle to find in non-refurb configuration.

I hope that helps! :)
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Hi,

I'm actually curious why they are referred to as "Russian capture", is there evidence that Russians captured VZ24s without Reich marks on them?
I was under the impression that the VZ24s used by Germans were marked as such (with eagles, etc.). Were these VZ24s actually bought from Russian
exporters?

The reason I'm asking is that I bought a Romanian contract VZ24 which was also referred to as "Russian capture", but my guess is that it was actually
refurbished in Romania, due to the way the crest was scrubbed (can give details if anyone is interested).

thanks
 
The very VAST majority of axis-used VZ24's are not marked as such. They only got german markings if they were repaired in Germany, or if they were one of the (relatively few) VZ24's converted to G24(t) configuration.

Between 1938 and 1940, the former czechoslovakia splintered into a number of newer, smaller countries with Germany annexing the majority. Wha remained was all part of the axis in WW2, and was all ultimately invade by Russia in 1944.

Unless a rifle ended the war in the west, the balance became what we think of as "russian capture". RC is not the same as saying battlefield capture, it simply means it ended up in the soviet half of the reich in 1945. No way to know for sure on individual rifles.
 
I got a Yugo M24/47 from Marstar awhile ago described as "good" condition. I would rate it as "excellent" with an as new bore and near perfect wood and bluing. Very happy with my purchase from them!
 
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Same here my Yugo from Marstar the wood was not the best looked like it was cleaned at the arsenal at one point but metal was brand new barrel was 100% like it just left the factory
 
erkner said:
Same here my Yugo from Marstar the wood was not the best looked like it was cleaned at the arsenal at one point but metal was brand new barrel was 100% like it just left the factory
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From my understanding, the M24/47s were rebarreled in the late forties (hence the "47" designation), and then mothballed for decades. You are essentially getting a new military Mauser for a very reasonable price.....
 
I was also looiing at those rifle as I just bought a ag42 that is suppose to be a 1943 in 8mm mauser :s... so i would like a second 8mm to go with it and I am unsure between the vz 24 and the yugo ???
 
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