Buying ammo in the U.S Q?

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Ok.. now I was thinking!! as a canadian I know you can't buy ammo in the U.S and bring it home, but if you have family that live in the U.S and they buy the ammo and come to canada with you can I not just use my PAL to clam it once we are at the border??? he would be legal in the U.S and me in canada?... now I will look into this more and I will call the border I just want to see if any one has down this road.
 
You're all wrong... depending on quantity...

And the OP might have something with the only exception being that the US citizen has to be bringing the ammo into Canada for personal use... which would preclude use by another...

22 C.F.R. § 123.16 Exemptions of general applicability.


(a) The following exemptions apply to exports of unclassified defense articles for which no approval is needed from the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls. These exemptions do not apply to: Proscribed destinations under §126.1 of this subchapter; exports for which Congressional notification is required (see §123.15 of this subchapter); MTCR articles; Significant Military Equipment (SME); and may not be used by persons who are generally ineligible as described in §120.1(c) of this subchapter. All shipments of defense articles, including those to and from Canada, require a Shipper's Export Declaration (SED) or notification letter. If the export of a defense article is exempt from licensing, the SED must cite the exemption. Refer to §123.22 for Shipper's Export Declaration and letter notification requirements.

(b) The following exports are exempt from the licensing requirements of this subchapter.

[...snip...]

(6) For exemptions for firearms and ammunition for personal use refer to §123.17.

22 C.F.R. § 123.17 Exports of firearms and ammunition.

[...snip...]

e) Port Directors of U.S. Customs and Border Protection shall permit U.S. persons to export without a license ammunition for nonautomatic firearms referred to in paragraph (a) of this section if the quantity does not exceed 1,000 cartridges (or rounds) in any shipment. The ammunition must also be for personal use and not for resale or other transfer of ownership. The foregoing exemption is also not applicable to the personnel referred to in §123.18 [members of the military have a separate exemption].

Definitions

[...snip...]

§ 120.15 U.S. person.

U.S. person means a person (as defined in §120.14 of this part) who is a lawful permanent resident as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(20) or who is a protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3). It also means any corporation, business association, partnership, society, trust, or any other entity, organization or group that is incorporated to do business in the United States. It also includes any governmental (federal, state or local) entity. It does not include any foreign person as defined in §120.16 of this part.


8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3)

[...snip...]

(3) ``Protected individual'' defined

As used in paragraph (1), the term ``protected individual''
means an individual who--

(A) is a citizen or national of the United States, or
(B) is an alien who is lawfully admitted for permanent residence...

[...snip...]
 
Um... not really... I don't know about components, but as far as loaded ammo goes for US citizens...



22 C.F.R. § 123.16 Exemptions of general applicability.


(a) The following exemptions apply to exports of unclassified defense articles for which no approval is needed from the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls. These exemptions do not apply to: Proscribed destinations under §126.1 of this subchapter; exports for which Congressional notification is required (see §123.15 of this subchapter); MTCR articles; Significant Military Equipment (SME); and may not be used by persons who are generally ineligible as described in §120.1(c) of this subchapter. All shipments of defense articles, including those to and from Canada, require a Shipper's Export Declaration (SED) or notification letter. If the export of a defense article is exempt from licensing, the SED must cite the exemption. Refer to §123.22 for Shipper's Export Declaration and letter notification requirements.

(b) The following exports are exempt from the licensing requirements of this subchapter.

[...snip...]

(6) For exemptions for firearms and ammunition for personal use refer to §123.17.

22 C.F.R. § 123.17 Exports of firearms and ammunition.

[...snip...]

e) Port Directors of U.S. Customs and Border Protection shall permit U.S. persons to export without a license ammunition for nonautomatic firearms referred to in paragraph (a) of this section if the quantity does not exceed 1,000 cartridges (or rounds) in any shipment. The ammunition must also be for personal use and not for resale or other transfer of ownership. The foregoing exemption is also not applicable to the personnel referred to in §123.18 [members of the military have a separate exemption].

Definitions

[...snip...]

§ 120.15 U.S. person.

U.S. person means a person (as defined in §120.14 of this part) who is a lawful permanent resident as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(20) or who is a protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3). It also means any corporation, business association, partnership, society, trust, or any other entity, organization or group that is incorporated to do business in the United States. It also includes any governmental (federal, state or local) entity. It does not include any foreign person as defined in §120.16 of this part.


8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3)

[...snip...]

(3) ``Protected individual'' defined

As used in paragraph (1), the term ``protected individual''
means an individual who--

(A) is a citizen or national of the United States, or
(B) is an alien who is lawfully admitted for permanent residence...

[...snip...]
You need to read the really big print it is pretty much self explanatory
 
So, my wife's cousin (Canadian citizenship) who lives and works in Minneapolis under his permanent resident status, can go to Cabelas and bring back 1,000 rounds of pistol ammo for when I take him to the pistol range?
 
It is my understanding that it is illegal for an alien to puchase or possess ammunition in the USA "UNLESS" you have a non-resident hunting license for any state in the USA.
Therefor I always purchase, online, an annual non-resident hunting license for the state of Virginia for less than $20.00. I have been purchasing ammo in the USA two or three times per year, declaring it at the border on returning home to Canada with no problems. Some stores may ask only for your zip code when making the purchase; but that's too easy.
 
It is my understanding that it is illegal for an alien to puchase or possess ammunition in the USA "UNLESS" you have a non-resident hunting license for any state in the USA.
Therefor I always purchase, online, an annual non-resident hunting license for the state of Virginia for less than $20.00. I have been purchasing ammo in the USA two or three times per year, declaring it at the border on returning home to Canada with no problems. Some stores may ask only for your zip code when making the purchase; but that's too easy.

Good for you, it's not legal to do that. Legally purchasing/possessing ammo has nothing to do with legally exporting it from the US. But I'm sure when US Customs or ATFE eventually get you at a random exit check or because they saw your car in the gun shop parking lot you'll be able to talk your way out of it.

BTW, all sorts of .gov agencies monitor this forum.

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