Buying collectible ammo boxes... warning/rant

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So after picking up a handful of collectable ammo & boxes of ammo over the last few months I just thought I would mention a few things I have been burned on. Firstly, I dont know if there was an intent on the various sellers to put one over on someone unsuspecting, but here they are.
Many of these boxes were wrapped in plastic, or layers of saran wrap and scotch tape, which helped hide a few issues.

One: a label on a WW1 era two part box, which looked unopened. I bought it for that reason at a price 7 times what it was really worth, only to peel off the layers of plastic to find the label was infact cut (half-assedly) across, and the box had been opened. This was my mistake, I should have asked the seller specifically if the box had been opened or not. As it is, expensive lesson learned in paying 100$ for a 15$ box of ammo. If you are buying for the box, rather than contents ask more questions I guess. In this particular case the gunshow was 300km away, so by the time I found out its not like you can go back.

Two: box looked fine, a little rough, but fine, only to find on getting it out of the plastic, that someone had glued part of the box back together. Again, under all the plastic I couldnt see that.

Three: F-ing sticker residue etc. I picked up several boxes where under a few layers of plastic everything looked ok-ish. On opening, various patches of gummy/dirty residue became apparent. So a fairly pristine box becomes VG rather than Ex. Mind you, I also picked up a few where helpful sellers plastered stupid stickers on the actual box, which when you try to remove them, they pull off the outer layer of the box. Just a friendly hint, if you see a sticker on a box, assume and treat it as permanent damage, 99% of the time it is. Frankly the homemade labels etc are infuriating to me, as I have seen a few vendors put their helpful stickers on the actual box, then wrap it in plastic, rather than between the layers of plastic... ugh.

In a few cases I actually bought the boxes for the actual contents, so will swallow the costs of boxes that are now basically garbage in my mind, but it goes to remind you that the layers of plastic etc can hide alot, just saying.
 
I shudder when I see somebody prying open a really nice box, with no regard for damaging the edges. It is beyond some people to think that others actually collect ammo boxes. I don’t blame sellers for wrapping in clear plastic. I don’t think they need to smear the box itself with price tags either. I found three excellent boxes of 3” Imperial paper shells, unwrapped. I bought all three.
 
Buddy offered to take one of my guns that needed sighting it to the range.
I agreed.
Told him I reload my ammo.
I find out he uses his tumb to open the fresh box of ammo...................grrrrrrr.

I get these blokes at gun shows too.
Full box of factory ammo for sale and they need to "OPEN" the farcking bawx wid der tumbs.
Woooooah, here let me do that for you.
 
Sorry, this discussion leaves me cold. I just don't see the point of collecting ammo boxes. Sorry.

I guess there is an interest for everybody; people collect stamps, Hot wheels or Matchbox toy cars, Barbie dolls, #### I know one guy who has an amazing lighter collection.

To each their own.
 
I went to a collectible sportscard store and picked up hockey/baseball card clear plastic boxes in various sizes to store the empty cartridge boxes. Great for display/protection and you can stack them ............
 
Putting any price on collectible ammo or boxes is a near to impossible art, no science involved. There are no accurate books or guides. You have to attend shows, search through auctions, and research those guys who sell collectible cartridges on-line. Best course is to post pics and descriptions and listen to a few ideas from guys who know the hobby.
 
Is there a list of what boxes are worth anything? I have a few kicking around. Some with ammo others just empty boxes.

No lists, they vary widely too. I only buy a few specific calibers, and only boxes with at least some contents. I picked up a couple preWW2 british boxes of commercial ammo, 60-90$, but there was a rarer Canadian box for 400$. Like anything else condition and desirability factor in hugely.
 
I was once told old canuck and dominion boxes were favorable. I shot off and discarded flats worth over the years. Loved the smell of the old imperial paper shells. They sure hammered the crows
 
What I have done in the past when I find A box thats wrapped is tell the seller that I am interested but need to see it clearly ( by that I mean unwrapped and the contents seen ) once a price has been given . If its as thought clean and complete I pay and I am Happy! I have bought boxes only later to find out that the ammo isn't original to the box or wrong calibers ( burn!!!) When you pay up you expect to get the right stuff ! If the vendor isn't willing I just take that as a dodged bullet ! No regrets !
 
I met some guy in the bush shotting all this old ammo his grandpa had laying around. Shells made of cardboard and such. Some of this stuff looked crazy old I wouldnt even wana put it into my guns.

After reading this i wonder how much of that ammo was valuable.
 
I met some guy in the bush shotting all this old ammo his grandpa had laying around. Shells made of cardboard and such. Some of this stuff looked crazy old I wouldnt even wana put it into my guns.

After reading this i wonder how much of that ammo was valuable.

Unless its a rare calibre its not valuable.

A 50 year old 3030 shell isnt worth any more then a brand new one. Same goes for a 50 year old 12 gauge shell.
 
I met some guy in the bush shotting all this old ammo his grandpa had laying around. Shells made of cardboard and such. Some of this stuff looked crazy old I wouldnt even wana put it into my guns.

After reading this i wonder how much of that ammo was valuable.


In the late 80's me and my brothers shot off all of my dad's grandfathers ammo, tons of paper shotgun shells, most of them never worked, and most of the 303's where fuzzy and got tossed, most if not all the old stuff is unreliable at best. Even the 22's would not fire every time, why anyone would spend money on old ammo only goes to prove that "there's one born every minute"
 
In the late 80's me and my brothers shot off all of my dad's grandfathers ammo, tons of paper shotgun shells, most of them never worked, and most of the 303's where fuzzy and got tossed, most if not all the old stuff is unreliable at best. Even the 22's would not fire every time, why anyone would spend money on old ammo only goes to prove that "there's one born every minute"

Ammo is perfectly fine if its been stored correctly. Ive shot piles of ammunition older then myself.
 
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