Buying magazines from the U.S.
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Clobbersauras
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x2 - except if you order over $100 worth. Then you need U.S. export paperwork. Keep it under $100 and no hassles.
FWIW The $100 exemption only applies to registered exporters. AFA the DoS is concerned, a mag is a mag, regardless of capacity. They are all subject to the same export controls. This has been stated dozens of times on this board.
#1bcshooter
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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It's $500.00 to Canada not $100.00
Everything I've seen so far indicates that if you stay under a $100 limit that you can get some shipments of parts into Canada without extra paperwork. While I'd love to see that it's actually $500 this is the first mention of such a limit. Where'd you find this?
From brownells website
There are a number of items which Brownells sells which need US State Department approval and an export license before they can be shipped out of the country. The regulations are complex and constantly changing but our staff is here to help you understand what is needed and will gladly work with you to correctly accomplish the task.
Generally speaking, items which usually need a license are:
•Frames
•Receivers
•Barrels
•Barrel Liners
•Various other gun parts such as triggers, sears, ejectors, magazine tubes, scopes, and other items if the ordered amount is over $100.00 US.
Licenses from the US State Department take time to receive. You will need a DSP-83 form from the US State Department for regulated items. It can easily take 30-60 days to obtain an export license, so plan ahead accordingly. Many other countries also require the buyer to apply for and receive an import permit or certificate in order to be able to import a licensed item into their country; so again, you will have to be aware of what the laws are for your country.
Brownells has an obligation to monitor our shipments for both direct and indirect exports. A direct export is when an order is placed by someone outside of the United States and then ships out of the US when all the required licenses and investigations have been successfully completed for that order. An indirect export is where an order is placed by a customer outside of the US and then is shipped to another location within the United States. Both of these examples could need an export license to take place.
There are a number of things which need to be checked and verified for an export order and Brownells is diligent to conduct the required procedures as specified by the law. Brownells will swiftly report any violations to the appropriate governing authorities of any potential customer which seeks to break those laws.
You will be required to provide an import permit or certificate from your government for us to include along with the export application for you order. You will also have to provide Brownells with a written order for the items you wish to order. This can be an official purchase order or a written order on your company’s letterhead, paragraphing in letter form the items you wish to order. Your signature is required on these items as well. The US Department of State also requires that your written order reflect that Brownells is the supplier your order is directed to. Failure to do so will cause your application to be denied. Unfortunately, the Brownells Order Form from our web site or our Web Order Confirmation cannot be accepted as a written order.
Exports of licensed products are regulated by various US Government agencies. The International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) is administered by The Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC) through the US Department of State. Click here for more information on License Support Documentation information from DDTC: http://pmddtc.state.gov
Other Web Resources
•http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/pdf/738spir.pdf
This is the Commerce Department EAR Section 731 Supplement No. 1 Country Chart. In this listing, if your country is listed on the chart and has an ‘X’ in the FC, CC1, CC2, CC3, AT1, OR AT2 columns, you will need an export permit.
•http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/pdf/cc10.pdf
This is the Commerce Department EAR Section 774 Category 0 listing. The following classifications will need a license:
ECCN 0A018 – Items which are on the Wassenaar Munitions List
ECCN 0A984 – Shotguns, barrel length 18 inches (45.72 cm) or over; buckshot shotgun shells; except equipment used exclusively to treat or tranquilize animals, and except arms designed solely for signal, flare, or saluting use; and parts, not elsewhere specified.
ECCN 0A987 – Optical sighting devices for firearms (including shotguns controlled by 0A984); and parts, not elsewhere specified.
Canadian customers can click here for information regarding firearms purchases: http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/faq/import_e.asp
Canadian customers can click here for information regarding firearms parts purchases: http://www.international.gc.ca/eicb/military/faq-en.asp
Canadian customers are required to provide and Import Authorization which states that you can import firearm components. Our Department of State will only accept a certified English translation of this import permit. DO NOT send your original copy because you will need it to receive the goods when they come to you.
If your country does not require an import license, you will need to post us a certified letter reflecting this information. Your written, signed order is required, as well as the guidelines previously mentioned. If you have any questions you may contact our Foreign Sales Department.
There are a number of items which Brownells sells which need US State Department approval and an export license before they can be shipped out of the country. The regulations are complex and constantly changing but our staff is here to help you understand what is needed and will gladly work with you to correctly accomplish the task.
Generally speaking, items which usually need a license are:
•Frames
•Receivers
•Barrels
•Barrel Liners
•Various other gun parts such as triggers, sears, ejectors, magazine tubes, scopes, and other items if the ordered amount is over $100.00 US.
Licenses from the US State Department take time to receive. You will need a DSP-83 form from the US State Department for regulated items. It can easily take 30-60 days to obtain an export license, so plan ahead accordingly. Many other countries also require the buyer to apply for and receive an import permit or certificate in order to be able to import a licensed item into their country; so again, you will have to be aware of what the laws are for your country.
Brownells has an obligation to monitor our shipments for both direct and indirect exports. A direct export is when an order is placed by someone outside of the United States and then ships out of the US when all the required licenses and investigations have been successfully completed for that order. An indirect export is where an order is placed by a customer outside of the US and then is shipped to another location within the United States. Both of these examples could need an export license to take place.
There are a number of things which need to be checked and verified for an export order and Brownells is diligent to conduct the required procedures as specified by the law. Brownells will swiftly report any violations to the appropriate governing authorities of any potential customer which seeks to break those laws.
You will be required to provide an import permit or certificate from your government for us to include along with the export application for you order. You will also have to provide Brownells with a written order for the items you wish to order. This can be an official purchase order or a written order on your company’s letterhead, paragraphing in letter form the items you wish to order. Your signature is required on these items as well. The US Department of State also requires that your written order reflect that Brownells is the supplier your order is directed to. Failure to do so will cause your application to be denied. Unfortunately, the Brownells Order Form from our web site or our Web Order Confirmation cannot be accepted as a written order.
Exports of licensed products are regulated by various US Government agencies. The International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) is administered by The Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC) through the US Department of State. Click here for more information on License Support Documentation information from DDTC: http://pmddtc.state.gov
Other Web Resources
•http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/pdf/738spir.pdf
This is the Commerce Department EAR Section 731 Supplement No. 1 Country Chart. In this listing, if your country is listed on the chart and has an ‘X’ in the FC, CC1, CC2, CC3, AT1, OR AT2 columns, you will need an export permit.
•http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/pdf/cc10.pdf
This is the Commerce Department EAR Section 774 Category 0 listing. The following classifications will need a license:
ECCN 0A018 – Items which are on the Wassenaar Munitions List
ECCN 0A984 – Shotguns, barrel length 18 inches (45.72 cm) or over; buckshot shotgun shells; except equipment used exclusively to treat or tranquilize animals, and except arms designed solely for signal, flare, or saluting use; and parts, not elsewhere specified.
ECCN 0A987 – Optical sighting devices for firearms (including shotguns controlled by 0A984); and parts, not elsewhere specified.
Canadian customers can click here for information regarding firearms purchases: http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/faq/import_e.asp
Canadian customers can click here for information regarding firearms parts purchases: http://www.international.gc.ca/eicb/military/faq-en.asp
Canadian customers are required to provide and Import Authorization which states that you can import firearm components. Our Department of State will only accept a certified English translation of this import permit. DO NOT send your original copy because you will need it to receive the goods when they come to you.
If your country does not require an import license, you will need to post us a certified letter reflecting this information. Your written, signed order is required, as well as the guidelines previously mentioned. If you have any questions you may contact our Foreign Sales Department.
I got that impression, too. As far as the U.S.'s export regulations are concerned, I don't think it matters whether the seller ships it out of the U.S. to you or you travel there to collect it yourself. If it needs an export permit, it needs an export permit. U.S. Customs may check you at departure and if they find you are taking something out that isn't in compliance, the least they may do is confiscate it. They may also confiscate the person carrying the items.
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Bringing it back yourself could be a problem if gun parts can only be exprted by a licenced exporter.
Deal with a licenced business like Brownells, and if the manufacturer is registered with DOS for export, you'll get your magazines.
Deal with a licenced business like Brownells, and if the manufacturer is registered with DOS for export, you'll get your magazines.
#1bcshooter
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- North Of The DMZ (US border)
Below is off Gun Parts Corp Web site .It has change to $200 from $500 since the last time I ordered from them a couple months ago
If you are placing an order for shipment outside of the United States, please review the following CHANGES regarding foreign orders.
As of April 1 2008, we will no longer accept export orders where the value of the parts exceeds $100 or that contain a restricted part, requiring an export license from the U.S. Department of State or an import license from the country of destination. (Note: Canada has a $200 parts limit)
Postage for all foreign orders is based on weight and destination.
All foreign orders are shipped via the United States Postal Service and all foreign orders are subject to a $25.00 export handling fee in addition to our regular shipping charges.
Foreign orders normally require more than the normal 24-48 hr processing time.
Certain parts are restricted for export by the United States Government, including barrels, barrel blanks, bolt assemblies, cylinders, receivers, frames, bolts, and high capacity magazines. For a complete list of restricted items and models that are restricted or that require additional licensing please click on the link below:
Restricted Models List
The United States government has restrictions in place with regards to countries to which we are unable to export. For the complete list of restricted countries, please click on the link below:
Restricted Countries List
Any additional questions can be emailed in to info@gunpartscorpcom
Clarification
Thanks for your replies guys, it is still a little unclear though. I am fixing to purchase 3 magazines (10 rounds) from the U.S. the total will be under
$100. Are magazines considered firearms parts? Can I bring them back from the U.S. without any additional paperwork.
Thanks for your replies guys, it is still a little unclear though. I am fixing to purchase 3 magazines (10 rounds) from the U.S. the total will be under
$100. Are magazines considered firearms parts? Can I bring them back from the U.S. without any additional paperwork.
