C. Sharps vs Shiloh Sharps...

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I am looking for a "Sharps"...

What are the differences between those 2 companies: C. Sharps vs Shiloh Sharps ?

Your appreciation and experiences.. any infos.

Thank you

Gerald
 
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Both Companies are on the same street in Big Timber Montana, Shiloh advertise more, sponsor more shooting sports and produce a very nice high end Model 1874 replica....a 2 year wait for your gun. According to most, it is well worth the wait! C Sharps produces 3 models the 1885, 1875, 1874, maybe not as fine a finish as Shiloh, but uses Badger barrels, which are generally accepted as the best. Shiloh makes their own button rifled barrels. Not as long a wait for the C.Sharps. Quality of either is way above any thing from offshore, but you pay almost double for that. If you want an 1885 or 1875 you'll have to take the C.Sharps, if you want a '74, it's up to you!!!
 
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Don't forget Pedersoli makes very well made 1874 Sharps in a variety of models at a fraction of the price of a C. Sharps or a Shilo and in many cases you can get them in short order...
However they don't offer the custom options that the American companies do..
I have owned 3. Pedersolis...and find their quality of manufacture excellent....the metal to wood finish superior...and quite accurate using properly prepared black powder cartridges...
 
C.Sharps vs. Shiloh

I have a C.Sharps 1874 (.45-70) and the tumbler hardening was not done properly, so the tumbler developed a ridge in the first year, I sent the lock back and they fitted a new tumbler and replaced the hammer screw that I buggered trying to undo it so I can get the tumbler out of the lock. They were very good to deal with. Yes the finish on a C.Sharps is slightly less well done than a Shiloh. The other difference Shiloh supposedly casts their receivers while C.Sharps mills them out of solid steel. For what it's worth I would not by a C.Sharps again I like my original 1863 Carbine better.
 
gerald I own some of each 1875's from C. Sharps and 1874's from Shiloh both are extremely well built and handle well shot nice.
I also have a couple of Bridgeport built Sharps rifles 1874's.
About the only difference between the rifles is C.Sharps is the only one that can Stamp the barrels with the "OLD RELIABLE" logo he holds the patent after the split.
Which ever you wish to pick you will be treated well and get one of the best quality firearms ever built.
Ken.
 
Shiloh vs C.Sharps

Gerald

I've owned a C.Sharps '75 45-70 'Business Rifle' and the only thing I didn't like about it was the straight grip stock. It shot like a hot damn!

But since I own three Shiloh-made rifles (two of them Farmingdale vintage), I swapped it off for another Shiloh (Big Timber) product. I guess I succumbed to the 'Shiloh' mystique.

It was the "Quigley" movie that made it big for Shiloh. That and some shrewd follow up marketing. The rifle used by Selleck in the film is not patterned after an historic Sharps and the company will actually try to talk you out of ordering it as per the movie version - military butt plate plus 45-110 = OUCH!!!
It was also incorrect for the era. Remember the baddie's Colt 1860 Army .44 percussion revolver? Selleck needed a '63 percussion model to be era-correct and it could have been done easily as Shiloh makes the '63 Military Rifle and Sporter. I have both.

As it's already been pointed out to you, one outfit casts their receivers and button rifles their barrels. T'other machines receivers and buys high grade cut rifled barrels. C.Sharps marks their rifles with the 'Old Reliable' label, which matters if you think it does.

Mike Venturino is one of the main gurus in the BPCR Silhouette game and a regular poster on the Shiloh forum site. There is a lot of snobbery amongst some of the Shiloh-ites and you take your chances talking about or discussing any other maker, particularly Pedersoli.

However, Venturino owns and shoots both C.Sharps and Pedersoli products and reports well on both in his books and articles. It still the man behind the trigger and the quality of your reloads that determines results downrange.

Frankly, if I was to acquire another '74 Sharps rifle, it would depend on who could deliver without a lengthy wait. You can always pay a speculator a premium and not have to wait. They advertise in the Black Powder Cartridge News and on web sites.
I'd like to see if a cut rifled barrel shoots any better, so maybe I'd go with the C.Sharps product next time.

I've been in both showrooms. Shiloh's is flashier, but the C.Sharps people had several rifles ready to go on the shelf. Read into that what you will .....

While in the Shiloh establishment, I overheard a phone call from a guy I knew. At any given time he had TEN Shiloh rifles on order! He keeps what he likes and flips the rest at a profit.

Must be nice ..... for him and Shiloh.

Todd
 
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