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http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20120405-79-eng.htm

Changes to business requirements: elimination of the requirement to register non-restricted firearms

Special Bulletin for Businesses No. 79

April 5, 2012

Snapshot

Implementation of Bill C-19, the Ending the Long-Gun Registry Act.

Implications

The Government of Canada has changed the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act to eliminate the requirement to register non-restricted firearms effective April 5, 2012. Until further notice, due to a Court Order issued by the Quebec Superior Court, residents of Quebec are still required to register non-restricted firearms with the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program.

Beginning on April 5, 2012, firearms businesses are no longer required to obtain a Registration Certificate for non-restricted firearms from the Canadian Firearms Program (CFP). This does not impact registration requirements for restricted or prohibited firearms.

Businesses that use Business Web Services, available from the CFP website, are advised that the registration and transfer of non-restricted firearms is no longer required or supported.

Individuals and businesses buying or otherwise acquiring firearms must still have a firearms licence, and businesses are still responsible for checking the buyer’s licence. Businesses may continue to call the CFP at the toll-free number to confirm the buyer’s licence prior to completing a sale.

For more information, please contact the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program.

This bulletin is intended to provide general information only. For legal references, please refer to the Firearms Act and Regulations. Provincial, territorial and municipal laws, regulations and policies may also apply.
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So are you still going to wait until you receive specific instruction from the CFO on procedures for registration/transfer of NR firearms? If so, can you advise when you have been given this instruction?

Thanks,
 
Longshot84 said:
So are you still going to wait until you receive specific instruction from the CFO on procedures for registration/transfer of NR firearms? If so, can you advise when you have been given this instruction?

Thanks,
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Hello Longshot84,

Thank you very much, we received confirmation of procedure later last night. We will be following the procedures set out by the RCMP and the CFO as stated in this bulletin.

Best regards,
Ryan Patterson
Blue Line Team
 
The bulletin at the top of the first post is relevant.

I guess the question then would be is this the same bulletin that the vendor received? Sounds like it is.
 
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Nemos said:
But what if be buy a NR fire arm from Quebec ?
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You being in BC are fine.

Quebec seller calls CFC to inform them they have sold the gun out of province.

CFC removes the gun from the registry.

You now have a new, unregistered non restricted.

Therein lies the STUPIDNESS of Quebec trying to get a provincial LGR.

"sell" the gun out of province - removed from the registry.

"purchaser" can then "loan" the now unregistered gun back to the seller for the rest of his/her life.
 
soulchaser said:
You being in BC are fine.

Quebec seller calls CFC to inform them they have sold the gun out of province.

CFC removes the gun from the registry.

You now have a new, unregistered non restricted.

Therein lies the STUPIDNESS of Quebec trying to get a provincial LGR.

"sell" the gun out of province - removed from the registry.

"purchaser" can then "loan" the now unregistered gun back to the seller for the rest of his/her life.
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Hahaha, yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I also suspect that registry will be less than effective.

-Steve
 
soulchaser said:
Walk into store.

Pick gun non restricted you like.

Show person behind the counter your PAL.

He or she MAY call the CFC to ensure pal is still valid.

you pay for your gun.

you leave the store with your new gun.
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That's how I see it too, MAY not MUST. Is this how stores are going to operate from this point forward? May not MUST?
 
soulchaser said:
You being in BC are fine.

Quebec seller calls CFC to inform them they have sold the gun out of province.

CFC removes the gun from the registry.

You now have a new, unregistered non restricted.

Therein lies the STUPIDNESS of Quebec trying to get a provincial LGR.

"sell" the gun out of province - removed from the registry.

"purchaser" can then "loan" the now unregistered gun back to the seller for the rest of his/her life.
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Yeah, if this registry in Quebec sticks then I think my dad in Ontario may take all my guns... I have a feeling that he`ll end up lending me a bunch of them though. ;)
 
ok, so i'll be the FIRST guy here to say it: wooooooooooooooohooooooooooooo!!!!!!

na na na - na, na na na - na, heyyyyyyyyyyyaaayyaaaaa goooooood bye!!!!

goodbye LGR - we sure won't miss you.
 
You guys are forgetting one little thing. You were always required to have the gun registration with you whether you owned it or borrowed it. I doubt you will be able to walk around Quebec with any gun that you do not have a registration for in your pocket. You will lose the gun and probable be charged.
Those slime balls in Quebec are not that dumb.
 
Altagezzer said:
You guys are forgetting one little thing. You were always required to have the gun registration with you whether you owned it or borrowed it. I doubt you will be able to walk around Quebec with any gun that you do not have a registration for in your pocket. You will lose the gun and probable be charged.
Those slime balls in Quebec are not that dumb.
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Yeah, but one HUGE difference: the charge will be a provincial regulatory offence not a federal criminal charge. In other words, a conviction will have about the same moral implications as receiving a ticket for having an expired vehicle registration - no jail time, no criminal record, no fingerprint supported record at all, and nobody outside the province will give a f*ck about it. A violation of a Quebec provincial firearms registry will not be a personal blot that can deny you the right to travel outside the country or ruin your employment prospects, maybe even deny you the right to enter certain professions, as a conviction relating to the late unlamented federal registry could.
 
So here's a noob question, as I have never sold any firearms, what happens now when you go to sell something out of the safe? I would imagine that the same procedure is still in place to verify the buyers PAL, and transfer the firearm? or no, no transfer just verification?

:cheers:

:wave:LGR:wave:
 
ballisticmystic said:
So here's a noob question, as I have never sold any firearms, what happens now when you go to sell something out of the safe? I would imagine that the same procedure is still in place to verify the buyers PAL, and transfer the firearm? or no, no transfer just verification?

:cheers:

:wave:LGR:wave:
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You don't need to verify the buyers PAL beyond inspecting it (picture matches person) and verifying it's not expired. Exchange money, exchange firearm. There is no longer a record of you owning that rifle. A 800 number is available to verify PAL's have not been revoked or suspended if you desire to check.
 
Holy smokes screwtape.

You've been a member since 2004 and you just made your first post?

What did you do, take a vow never to post until the registry went down?

:D:p:D
 
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