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Hi fellow trapshooters,

I was recently down at the Shot Show in Orlando and stop by the Caesar Guerini booth and saw that they had trap guns coming out this year. The trap gun came in 3 models and the barrels are unsingle 32 or 34 inch and the combos are 32/34 or 30/32 and both barrels have adjustable point of impact ribs and also adjustable stocks. Seems like Caesar Guerini is now getting into the trapshooting market as well.

I was so impressed with them that I ordered one and I should receive it approximately May of this year. That means that I will be back at trapshooting and will also give an honest opinion after I evaluate its performance. After holding it at the show, and thoroughly checking it over I felt that it will be coming out on the market with great expectations of being the new gun on the market at a lot less of the prices of the high end guns such as Kreighoff, Perazzi and Kolar. As soon as I get further info I will be pleased to post pics etc.

Best regards,
Sam
 
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Sam any other new shotgun news you'd care to share with us? I really like the look of the new Rem 105, did you happen to have look at that gun in Orlando?FS
 
Fassteel said:
Sam any other new shotgun news you'd care to share with us? I really like the look of the new Rem 105, did you happen to have look at that gun in Orlando?FS
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Hi Fassteel,

I did look at the Remingtons and they do look good. I think that they will pickup alot of the mid range market that everyone is missing. Franchi seems to want to get into the action as well. As many of you know Franchi is also owned by Beretta.

For you Spartan fans this year Remington is releasing them into the Canadian market and their counterparts Baikal have reduced their pricing to attempts to slow down the Spartan entry into Canada.

Perazzi had their usual impressive displays and Ljutic had their new model out as well. I did need a few more days to take everything in unfortunately I spent way too much time at the Caesar Guerini booth studying their new trapguns for the market in the US and Canada. I should see shipments arriving in May hopefully with mine being the first so that I can get out there and begin to shoot this year.

Best regards,
Sam
 
Hi Jacky,

I am not sure of any pricing as of yet. I am also waiting on it myself. I would think that they will come in at around 4,500.00 - 5,200.00 from what they were mentioning at the Shot SHow. I'm sure from that discussion things do change. I was informed that the combo's would be in the 7,500.00 and that the unsingle or the over and under will be the same price with the one barrel set. All of the guns are overbored as well as back bored with choke tubes. I am waiting to receive the pics from the gun company and I will post them as soon as I get them. From my observation I would say that everything is very comparible to a Krieghoff with the point of impact design as well as the choke tubes.

Best regards,
Sam

Hope this is of help.
 
So Sam did you happen past the Beretta booth, I hear there is a slight improvment called a Urika 2 know anything about it? I thought about the 105 for sporting clays, here in Alberta any thoughts there Sam? Thanks FS
 
Fassteel said:
So Sam did you happen past the Beretta booth, I hear there is a slight improvment called a Urika 2 know anything about it? I thought about the 105 for sporting clays, here in Alberta any thoughts there Sam? Thanks FS
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From years of experience in shooting clays, the Remingtons have done well with the 1100's and 870 Wingmasters not expresses. I have little experience with the 105 and have yet to shoot one. I am not a fan of a bottom eject and do have to say that many of my friends shoot BPS and some still use Ithacas with bottom eject and have found them to work quite well for them.

In regards to the Beretta 391 Urika 2, I spent most of my day at the Beretta booth as I am a Beretta dealer and noticed that they have made the receiver look better and they have also added Kick-Off to the line. It basically resembles the Extrema 3.2 only in a 3 inch and with X-TRA GRAIN. I again am not a fan of the X-TRA GRAIN since it is not real wood and a simulation of real wood. The 391 Urika 2 is very pleasing to the eye. Claybuster has a good link for you to get all of the latest info on the firearm.

If I were to choose between Rem. 105 or Beretta Urika 2 I would certainly go for the Urika 2 over the Rem. Another consideration would to be to look at the Beretta Teknys Gold Sporting if you want a great gun for sporting clays.

If you decide to go to a Remington product take a close look at the Remington 1100 Competition with the adjustable stock. It is a great looking gun and a 1100 which is one of the better products that Rem has ever made (next to the 3200).

Again just my opinions and hopefully those that feel different are not offended by what I have posted.

Best regards,
Sam
 
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Sam, how does the Kick-Off affect the 391 handling? They are not particularly muzzle heavy and does the additional weight in the back end make them feel whippy?

I agree that the 391 and the Teknys without the XtraWood or XtraGrain are more desirable guns.

Despite owing many Remingtons over the years I won't touch a new one. They are not the guns they once were.
 
Claybuster said:
Sam, how does the Kick-Off affect the 391 handling? They are not particularly muzzle heavy and does the additional weight in the back end make them feel whippy?

I agree that the 391 and the Teknys without the XtraWood or XtraGrain are more desirable guns.

Despite owing many Remingtons over the years I won't touch a new one. They are not the guns they once were.
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Hi Claybuster,

First of all, all the best to you in the new year and hope you are smashing targets.

The kickoff in my opinion is not really required on the 391 it is already a soft shooting gun, it really does not add much weight on the back end of the gun the kickoff is quite light. I agree with it being on the Extrema when shooting the 3.5 shells it will help there. Most of the Extrema's that I have sold the customers are returning saying that they do not feel any recoil until they shoot the 3.5 shells. I personally do not care for the Kickoff on the guns and have not sold many. The concept is similar to the Gracoil system only I feel the Gracoil is more attractive on a gun. (Must be the trapshooter in me)I have ordered another Extrema to come in the next shipment just to keep one in stock for those that do want to have them. I do not think that they are moving all that well since Beretta is offering good deals to the dealers to move the guns. I wish sometimes Beretta would listen to their dealers and customers. If you recall the new trap gun semi the UGB25 Xcel is now removed from the line up in Canada as I stated to them it would not fly. According to ATA rules when moving from one station to another you must remove your shells from the gun. The gun was extremely high priced and still a semi and for the same dollars you could own an over/under.

Now I feel the Urika 2 will fall in the same catagory where the 391's are already soft shooting and the kickoff will not change things. I have to check to see if they are available in Canada for this year.

One thing that I did notice at the Shot Show was that Beretta came out with an unsingle barrel for the 682 Gold E models. The barrel has an adjustable point of impact and they are similar to the DT10 barrels. Dt10 trap guns are still on demand and releasing the 682 Gold E unsingle will make Beretta guns affordable for most that can not afford to move to a DT10.

As for Remington's I do agree once we seem to graduate to a finer gun it is difficult to go backwards, however for most new shooters that can not afford to move to a better gun the Remington's are a good gun to start with and of course the only ones worth mentioning are the 1100's.

Best regards,
Sam
 
DT10Sam said:
Hi fellow trapshooters,

I was recently down at the Shot Show in Orlando and stop by the Caesar Guerini booth and saw that they had trap guns coming out this year. The trap gun came in 3 models and the barrels are unsingle 32 or 34 inch and the combos are 32/34 or 30/32 and both barrels have adjustable point of impact ribs and also adjustable stocks. Seems like Caesar Guerini is now getting into the trapshooting market as well.

I was so impressed with them that I ordered one and I should receive it approximately May of this year. That means that I will be back at trapshooting and will also give an honest opinion after I evaluate its performance. After holding it at the show, and thoroughly checking it over I felt that it will be coming out on the market with great expectations of being the new gun on the market at a lot less of the prices of the high end guns such as Kreighoff, Perazzi and Kolar. As soon as I get further info I will be pleased to post pics etc.

Best regards,
Sam
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Did you get any pictures of the Caeser that you could share?
 
Win/64 said:
Did you get any pictures of the Caeser that you could share?
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Hi Win/64,

You are not allowed to bring a camera at the Shot Show and the folks at Caesar Guerini will send me some photos as soonas they are ready and I will post them.

Best regards,
Sam
 
Thanks Sam, it's good see you back on CGN.

I can't see myself getting rid of my 391 Sporting for a Urika-2. I've never found it that difficult to clean the gun and recoil isn't an issue.

There's no loss to Canadian trapshooters if the UGB Excel isn't available IMO. I looked one over at the Grand a couple years ago. With the side shell carrier and the amount of the action exposed to the elements when the gun is open I can't see it fairing to well in a Canadian winter.

Remington 1100s are good guns but the older ones are better. I'd rather see a new shooter get a used 1100 in good condition than one of the newer ones. Better yet would be saving a few more dollars and buying a 391. I know a couple shooters who've had problems with their 1100s but the 391 owners all seem to be pretty happy.
 
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