CamPro in .45 Colt

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Guys,
Over the weekend I picked up QTY 500 200GRN CamPro plated TC bullets in .45 Colt for use in my Uberti 1873 colt revolver.

Is anybody using these in NON ACP .45 Colt?

They do not have a cannelure and I am just wondering about the amount of crimp required. Also COAL would be nice if you guys have any experience with this set up.

I am looking to work up some cowboy action type loads over 6.5GRN's of Hodgon TiteGroup powder.

My planned recipe is:
COAL = 1.6"
Powder charge = 6.5 GRN's of TiteGroup
Heavy Crimp
CCI 300 Large Pistol Primers

According to Hodgon Reloading Data this should give me aprox 933fps. I am treating the Campro's as a hard cast bullet.

Thoughts??
 
You could do one of two things:

1. Seat the bullet so that the bearing surface is entirely inside the case and crimp over the shoulder at the very beginning of the ogive.
2. Crimp very lightly into the body of the bullet, taking care not to cut through the plating.
 
tjhaile said:
You could do one of two things:

1. Seat the bullet so that the bearing surface is entirely inside the case and crimp over the shoulder at the very beginning of the ogive.
2. Crimp very lightly into the body of the bullet, taking care not to cut through the plating.
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I made up some dummy rounds to set my seating die and crimping die. (using Dillon 550b with separate crimping die) I was experimenting with levels of crimp and at a very tight crimp on the body of the bullet the plating did not appear to be broken. (I pulled these bullets each time)

Is breaking the plating the main concern here??
 
Breaking the plating is the biggest concern. The secondary concern is that excessive deformation of the bullet is probably not conducive to accuracy.
 
nseverett said:
Guys,
Over the weekend I picked up QTY 500 200GRN CamPro plated TC bullets in .45 Colt for use in my Uberti 1873 colt revolver.

Is anybody using these in NON ACP .45 Colt?

They do not have a cannelure and I am just wondering about the amount of crimp required. Also COAL would be nice if you guys have any experience with this set up.

I am looking to work up some cowboy action type loads over 6.5GRN's of Hodgon TiteGroup powder.

My planned recipe is:
COAL = 1.6"
Powder charge = 6.5 GRN's of TiteGroup
Heavy Crimp
CCI 300 Large Pistol Primers

According to Hodgon Reloading Data this should give me aprox 933fps. I am treating the Campro's as a hard cast bullet.

Thoughts??
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Since you are usigng 45 ACP bullets without a cannelure, maybe you should just try to taper crimp them? It's not a stout load so you probably don't need an aggressive crimp to keep them in place. Maybe taper crimp a few and try it out. Or perhaps a LEE FCD might work in this case, but I'm not sure.
 
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Gatehouse said:
Since you are usigng 45 ACP bullets without a cannelure, maybe you should just try to taper crimp them? It's nto a stoput load so you probably don't need an agressive crimp to keep them in place. Maybe taper crimp a few and try it out. Or perhaps a LEE FCD might work in this case, but I'm not sure.
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OP had the .451 bullets meant for .45 ACP, but the new query was from someone else with the .452 Campro meant for .45 Colt, with a cannelure. Check the link posted there.

I'd consider bare lead to be the native bullet in a .45 Colt round, but sometimes you're pushing velocity or at an indoor range that doesn't like unjacketed bullets. I stick with lead for the lighter loads meant for an older gun, but use plated bullets for the warm loads only for a newer gun so they're clearly different.
 
nseverett said:
I made up some dummy rounds to set my seating die and crimping die. (using Dillon 550b with separate crimping die) I was experimenting with levels of crimp and at a very tight crimp on the body of the bullet the plating did not appear to be broken. (I pulled these bullets each time)

Is breaking the plating the main concern here??
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That’s what I do basically, crimp and pull bullets till I see a slight crimp indent on the bullet body. Campro’s shoot well, hard to beat for the price.
 
A 45 acp taper crimp is what I use when seating bullets without a crimp groove. I have a 200 gr cast 45 acp bullet that I use with 45 Colt loads in my Contender pistol. Tried crimping on the shoulder and found I was getting better accuracy with the bullet seated farther out and taper crimped.
 
I help clean up after ipsc matches at our club and I’ve always picked up complete rounds that have been cleared when a malfunction happens, mainly plated campro’s or berry’s by the looks of them. Wide variety of visible crimps on them, from none to heavy. Clearly some people have a load that works for them with a heavy crimp, probably to keep pressure high to meet a certain power factor.
 
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