Can anyone create dummy rounds for me?

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Hello all, I’m looking to get some dummy rounds made as I don’t have the tools to do it myself.

I built my son a No 1 Mk3 Enfield hunting rifle and my daughter a Swedish Mauser scout.

I need the brass sized and a bullet seated very firmly. I’d like the dummy rounds to have no primer as I’ll fill the primer pocket with an eraser or hot glue to make a snap cap of sorts.

I will paint the bullet and chemically blacken the brass to create a clear visual indication that they are dummy rounds.

I’d like maybe 12 .303 British and maybe 17 6.5x55 Swede.

I’ll gladly pay someone to do this.

Can anyone help me out?

Thanks.
 
Your best bet may be to buy snap caps.

Bright red, or neon colours ideally so there is no mistaking them, and where safety is paramount.

Hollywood uses realistic dummies for films, but they watch those dummy rounds like a hawk, and usually have a brass bead inside for an audible check.

Snap caps will not come apart, and there is no mistaking them.

They are readily available in Canada, and there is a resale value.

.303 examples:

https://g4cgunstore.com/product/a-zoom-12226-303british-snap-caps-2pack/

6.5x55 examples:

https://firearmsoutletcanada.com/a-zoom-snap-caps-6-5x55-2pk-12251-.html

If you want realistic dummies for a militaria display, that is a different story, and hopefully someone comes along to assist.

Hope that helps!
 
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bertn said:
Snap caps don't have the same weight as a normal round so I understand the appeal of making them with a normal bullet.

If you do make them from brass then consider drilling a hole right through the sides of the case so it is extremely clear these are your dummy rounds.
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Great idea. I’ll add a hole through the side too.

Thanks.
 
pcvando said:
Your best bet may be to buy snap caps.

Bright red, or neon colours ideally so there is no mistaking them, and where safety is paramount.

Hollywood uses realistic dummies for films, but they watch those dummy rounds like a hawk, and usually have a brass bead inside for an audible check.

Snap caps will not come apart, and there is no mistaking them.

They are readily available in Canada, and there is a resale value.

.303 examples:

https://g4cgunstore.com/product/a-zoom-12226-303british-snap-caps-2pack/

6.5x55 examples:

https://firearmsoutletcanada.com/a-zoom-snap-caps-6-5x55-2pk-12251-.html

If you want realistic dummies for a militaria display, that is a different story, and hopefully someone comes along to assist.

Hope that helps!
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Thank you. Adding something inside to add sound is a good idea too.

Snap caps are cost prohibitive for how many I’m after.
 
You can drill a hole in the body of a loaded round (even a factory round), shake the powder out, squirt a liberal amount of Hoppe's # 9 into the case and let it stand upright for a week. The primer will be dead.

Not hard to tell it's a dummy with a hole in it.

"Dummy's" are not a substitute for a snap cap although modern centerfire guns don't really need a snap cap. About all a dummy will do is prevent a broken firing pin from going down a barrel. They are good for checking a feeding problem.
 
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guntech said:
You can drill a hole in the body of a loaded round (even a factory round), shake the powder out, squirt a liberal amount of Hoppe's # 9 into the case and let it stand upright for a week. The primer will be dead.

Not hard to tell it's a dummy with a hole in it.

"Dummy's" are not a substitute for a snap cap although modern centerfire guns don't really need a snap cap. About all a dummy will do is prevent a broken firing pin from going down a barrel. They are good for checking a feeding problem.
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Thanks, that is a good option too.

Basically I want the kids to learn to load and operate their rifles in a safe manner. Most of the drills I run them through work just fine without dummy rounds but I am also putting them through drills where dummy rounds will show if they are operating the bolt properly and better show how they will respond in a stressful situation. We have significant bear issues in our area, griz and black bear, and when I am not home my oldest daughter and/or son may well need to use their rifles to protect our homestead. I intend to train them for that but want to start with dummy rounds before live fire.

The Enfield works fine without dummy rounds for most things but the Swedish Mauser has a bolt hold open follower of sorts so it isn't as easy to do dry fire training with it.

Thanks for your thoughts and feedback.
 
G.Mitchell said:
The Enfield works fine without dummy rounds for most things but the Swedish Mauser has a bolt hold open follower of sorts so it isn't as easy to do dry fire training with it.

Thanks for your thoughts and feedback.
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On the Swede just file the back of the magazine follower on an angle and voila the hold open feature is removed….. guys have been doing this since Christ was a Lance corporal.

Home made .303 dummy rounds are a royal pain in the arse, the abrupt feeding ramp coupled with the relatively thin brass necks cause the bullets to yaw, and either fall out or get pushed into the case mouth…. Having made dummy rounds for our CFSC rifles prove this out time and again, we’ve been forced to only letting students actually chamber the solid store bought dummy rounds, else I’m re building cartridges constantly.

If you’re so set on feel run drills just buy your dummy rounds, the weight difference is moot.
 
Lefty #### said:
On the Swede just file the back of the magazine follower on an angle and voila the hold open feature is removed….. guys have been doing this since Christ was a Lance corporal.

Home made .303 dummy rounds are a royal pain in the arse, the abrupt feeding ramp coupled with the relatively thin brass necks cause the bullets to yaw, and either fall out or get pushed into the case mouth…. Having made dummy rounds for our CFSC rifles prove this out time and again, we’ve been forced to only letting students actually chamber the solid store bought dummy rounds, else I’m re building cartridges constantly.

If you’re so set on feel run drills just buy your dummy rounds, the weight difference is moot.
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I find that interesting , as I have had a set of dummy rounds made for my Long Branch for training when I shot service rifle, and never had that issue, but I use a charging clip, could that be the difference?
Cat
 
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Lefty #### said:
On the Swede just file the back of the magazine follower on an angle and voila the hold open feature is removed….. guys have been doing this since Christ was a Lance corporal.

Home made .303 dummy rounds are a royal pain in the arse, the abrupt feeding ramp coupled with the relatively thin brass necks cause the bullets to yaw, and either fall out or get pushed into the case mouth…. Having made dummy rounds for our CFSC rifles prove this out time and again, we’ve been forced to only letting students actually chamber the solid store bought dummy rounds, else I’m re building cartridges constantly.

If you’re so set on feel run drills just buy your dummy rounds, the weight difference is moot.
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Good feedback.

I'd like to keep the hold open feature on the Swede. I actually like it.

I tried the store bought dummy rounds for my lever .44mag and it chewed them up in no time. For the price I got terribly poor use out of them.

No option is perfect, I train with dummy rounds with all my firearms and expect my kids to too.
 
iron cat said:
I fi d that interesting , as I havechad a set of dummy rous made for my Long Branch for training when I shot service rifle, and never had that issue, but I use a charging clip, could that be the difference?
Cat
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Good to know.

My son will be running them from the mag without stripper clips as I installed a scope over the action.
 
G.Mitchell said:
Hello all, I’m looking to get some dummy rounds made as I don’t have the tools to do it myself.

I built my son a No 1 Mk3 Enfield hunting rifle and my daughter a Swedish Mauser scout.

I need the brass sized and a bullet seated very firmly. I’d like the dummy rounds to have no primer as I’ll fill the primer pocket with an eraser or hot glue to make a snap cap of sorts.

I will paint the bullet and chemically blacken the brass to create a clear visual indication that they are dummy rounds.

I’d like maybe 12 .303 British and maybe 17 6.5x55 Swede.

I’ll gladly pay someone to do this.

Can anyone help me out?

Thanks.
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I would happily make them for you... But I need the rifle to ensure a smooth chambering... I make them for all my buddies... Easy peasy with the bullet of choice and some spent cases.... Leave the old spent primer in and paint it to make it clear... I foam fill for insurance... super easy...
Usually make five to ten so you can practice loading and firing through a hold position... Very good training tool... Cheers
 
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