Can Anyone Date Cooey Shotguns - Year of Mfg. ?

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I just picked up a nice - Cooey Model 84 - with bright Case Colors Sr # 679xx - 30" Full Choke - plain stock.

And, I'm trying to research its year of manufacture. (?)

Left side of receiver (muzzle pointing left) is stamped - H.W. Cooey Machine & Arms Ltd. over Coburg Ont.

Right side of receiver (muzzle pointing right) is stamped - Model 84 over Made in Canada.

It's nothing fancy, but in great shape for its age.

All input will be appreciated.

Thx. Dave
 
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Maybe you can read up the article on Wikipedia about the Cooey 84 - if correct, there will be three places the serial number got stamped, including on the receiver. As per that article, your maker scroll is from before 1961 - about as precise, it seems, for Cooey collectors to get? Between your description and Wikipedia article - left side and right side of receiver might be mixed up?? Regardless - if it is a Cooey Model 84 it was made 1967 or earlier - after that, when Winchester Arms Company bought Cooey, it became the Model 840, until production ceased in 1979.
 
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Potashminer said:
Maybe you can read up the article on Wikipedia about the Cooey 84 - if correct, there will be three places the serial number got stamped, including on the receiver. As per that article, your maker scroll is from before 1961 - about as precise, it seems, for Cooey collectors to get? Between your description and Wikipedia article - left side and right side of receiver might be mixed up?? Regardless - if it is a Cooey Model 84 it was made 1967 or earlier - after that, when Winchester Arms Company bought Cooey, it became the Model 840, until production ceased in 1979.
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Thanks for the tip. D.
 
Winchester did manufacture the Model 84 from the time they bought out Cooey in 1961 until 1968.The Model 840 did not come into production until 1968,when the Model 84 was dropped.The Winchester Cooey manufactured Model 84 guns have, made by Winchester Western Canada LTD stamped on the left side,while the Cooey guns were stamped H W Cooey on that side.That is the only difference between a Model 84 Winchester /Cooey and a Model 84 Cooey.:)
 
djm: This info may help. I have a Cooey 84, similar to yours. Serial number: #301**. Purchased new(gift as kid), mid 1950's. Exact date now long forgotten. But certainly owned it prior to 1959-'60.
 
There was a fellow writing a book on Cooey Guns.Not sure if he ever published it or not.Would be interesting to see what he had to say about Cooey numbers.
 
I have serial 47327 - marked Cooey 840 on left side,
Marked on right side - Made by Winchester Western (Canada) Ltd.
 
saskbooknut said:
I have serial 47327 - marked Cooey 840 on left side,
Marked on right side - Made by Winchester Western (Canada) Ltd.
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From what I've read so far - your gun would have been Mfg by Winchester-Western after they bought-out Cooey in 1961.

Apparently that's when they changed the left and right-side receiver markings to what you have with the new concurrent model - possibly to increase US sales.

Because it's stamped as a Model 840, I'm guessing that they must have started over with the serial numbers.

I don't know if the original Cooeys were ever exported and marketed in the US.
 
I just heard back from another CGN'r that Joe Salter (joesalter.ca) is having some more copies of the "Cooey Book" reprinted now.
 
John Bolton wrote a soft cover booklet on Cooey.He was going to update that booklet,but died before he could do so.Have a copy of that booklet.

The book I am talking about, was to be written by Scott Jamieson.Had heard at one time ,it was just about ready to publish,but have heard nothing about it since.
 
The early Winchester/Cooey Model 840 guns had the same stamping as the Model 84 Winchester/Cooey guns, other than marked Model 840 rather than Model 84.Later Model 840 guns had the stamping on the barrel.

The later Model 840 guns most likely used the same receivers as the Winchester Model 370 and by not marking the receivers ,Winchester/Cooey could use the same receivers without the trouble of having to keep the receivers separate during production runs.
 
My name is Scott Jamieson and I'm not GONE but writing a COOEY BOOK that at present has over 1100 images; 12 Chapters; 4 appendices 7,300+ serial numbers logged and approximately 150,000 words. The book is arranged chronologically rather than by Model number ending confusion over Model numbers like the 64 and 84 and their years of manufacture.
To my knowledge NO Cooey manufacturing records exist hence my need to acquire serial numbers. I don't believe that the guns were necessarily sold in serial number sequence either but were built in lots based o gauge. Thus far for the shotguns I have logged 1300 Model 84; 750 Model 840's; 450 UK sold guns of unknown Model; 100 Model 840's with CE serial number prefix; and 254 misc branded 84/840 clones; 385 Model 370 and 850 Model 37A's to date.
Regarding reversed receiver stampings on Model 84 shotguns I have logged 16 thus far; 9 in the 66### range; 2 in the 69### range; 3 in the 70### range and 2 in the 71### range. Anomalies abound in the world of Cooey.
As I draw closer on serial numbers I may be able to date the shotguns more closely using information gleaned from numerous sources but to data a Cooey to an exact time and day will never be possible unless records should ever turn up.
If you want to be part of this work please contact me at scott.jamieson@sympatico.ca. Want info on all Toronto/Cobourg Cooey models especially ones that carry serial numbers. Thank you.
 
Scott Jamieson said:
My name is Scott Jamieson and I'm not GONE but writing a COOEY BOOK that at present has over 1100 images; 12 Chapters; 4 appendices 7,300+ serial numbers logged and approximately 150,000 words. The book is arranged chronologically rather than by Model number ending confusion over Model numbers like the 64 and 84 and their years of manufacture.
To my knowledge NO Cooey manufacturing records exist hence my need to acquire serial numbers. I don't believe that the guns were necessarily sold in serial number sequence either but were built in lots based o gauge. Thus far for the shotguns I have logged 1300 Model 84; 750 Model 840's; 450 UK sold guns of unknown Model; 100 Model 840's with CE serial number prefix; and 254 misc branded 84/840 clones; 385 Model 370 and 850 Model 37A's to date.
Regarding reversed receiver stampings on Model 84 shotguns I have logged 16 thus far; 9 in the 66### range; 2 in the 69### range; 3 in the 70### range and 2 in the 71### range. Anomalies abound in the world of Cooey.
As I draw closer on serial numbers I may be able to date the shotguns more closely using information gleaned from numerous sources but to data a Cooey to an exact time and day will never be possible unless records should ever turn up.
If you want to be part of this work please contact me at scott.jamieson@sympatico.ca. Want info on all Toronto/Cobourg Cooey models especially ones that carry serial numbers. Thank you.
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Thanks Scott for your input.

Now you can add Ser# 679xx with reversed receiver stampings to your list.

Dave.
 
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[Good afternoon everyone,
I should have added to my Cooey email to the group that I'm not a regular user of this website as I already have too many to contend with so emailing me directly at scott.jamieson@sympatico.ca would be most helpful to me.
You may be wondering about a time frame for publication -well that depends upon several factors; seeing enough serial numbers for me to be able to discern production quantities and how they worked their serial numbering but mostly it depends upon Cooey owners and their willingness to add to the collected data. Everyone receives an acknowledgment unless advised otherwise but no serial numbers are ever linked to any owner. I'm not making road maps for the government or thieves.
The Cooey story is an important Canadian story that needs to be fully and accurately told before too much mis-information makes its way into the internet. Sadly I see a lot of this already.
Check out if you will, my 2 previously published books, BULLARD ARMS and BULLARD FIREARMS to see what I looking to achieve. Thank you all in advance for your time and consideration. PS: Thank you Dave. if anyone has questions I will try and answer them accurately.
Scott Jamieson
 
djm said:
Gun is now for sale on the Shotgun Exchange
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I'm sorry but someone has been giving you some real bad feedback if that is worth 300 bucks. Grab over 150 if offered IMHO
I have sold 100's over the years and still have a full set of these in 84 and 840 and even now a 12ga in mint condition may bring 200 plus bucks and this one is not that. Lucky to get 300 for a 410. I got 500 for a new in the box 28ga a year ago for comparison
Tagged for interest and sorry but just being honest
Red letter model 37's are rare and bring extra money. Never heard of anyone seeing any cooey 84 as rare to pay more for it but all ears to learn
Just my useless 2 cents

Congrats on the quick sale and if you tell me it went for 300 my used 28ga's are being listed for 700 each :). Gun post maybe is full of brain dead buyers who over pay with more money than brains but not here
 
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