Can anyone identify the rifle in this picture (ww1)?

sailorjosh

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This is my great grandfather circa world war one - sorry for the bad quality picture, it's the best I can do. Is it a ross rifle? Long Lee? Something else? I know it's hard to tell, but thanks for your input!


Linked cause its a big pic

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He looks almost exactly like me - I have this picture on a shelf, and I have had friends who have not believed that it is not a picture of me!
 
It looks suspiciously like a Ross M10 but I can't see enough of the action to say for sure.
 
I place my bets on it being a full Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.1 long rifle.

If you look at the length of the visible barrel, it is longer than a Ross, and the bayonet lug juts out, which is the design on the No.1 Mk.1 and not the Ross.

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Lee-Enfield No.I Mk.I Long Rifle. Note the bayonet lug and length of the barrel.

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Ross 1905, shorter barrel, bayonet lug is part of the front band.
 
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I place my bets on it being a full Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk.1 long rifle.

If you look at the length of the visible barrel, it is longer than a Ross, and the bayonet lug juts out, which is the design on the No.1 Mk.1 and not the Ross.
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That rifle pictured is not a "No1 MkI".

The No1 MkI is the later designation of the Rifle, Short, Magazine Lee Enfield, MkI (SMLE MkI). It was renamed the during the 20's when the Brits adopted a new small arms nomenclature.

The rifle in your pic, 762russian, is a version of the Rifle, Magazine Lee Enfield. Mk(?), commonly called the "Long Lee". This rifle never received a "No." designation as it was obsolete when the new nomenclature was adopted.

It looks like an MLE to me too in the first pic.
 
You were in the right ballpark. On some forums a post like your's will start a fistfight.;) LE guys can be pretty serious.:)
 
I'd concur with opinion of it being a "Long Lee".

And, even though I DO consider myself an "Enfield guy", I most definitely am NOT "serious"!

;)

Neal
 
Calum said:
Look at the location of the sling attachment in the pic...looks like a Ross to me.
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That Long Lee has two sling swivels on the front of the gun... for some obscure reason they have one right behind the bayonet lug... :confused:

if you max out Sailor's picture of his grandfather, if you look at his hand, I'm pretty certain that you can see the second sling swivel there in front of his index finger...
 
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Its bolt action, and the bayonet lug projects foreward, so it is most likely a MLE. The swivel on the nosecap is a piling swivel, used to link rifles together so that they could be stood upright.
 
It is a Long Lee Mark I, if you look closely you can even see the channel for the missing cleaning rod on the forestock.
 
approx 49"+ long-from bricks 3" high and 1/2" grout
clearing rod channel
offset top "sling" swival
pileing swival
dial sights
sword bar or bayonet lug
front sight barrel band? -aprox 1.5 " below muzzle
I think it can be from a MLE mk1* up to and including a Lee Enfield mk1*as the latter could be made up from parts back to the MLE mk1* thats my opinion...
 
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