Can Bushnell Troghy Scope handle 300wm recoil?

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Hi All,

Just got back from the firing range, my Uncle is so discourage we Installed a used 4-12x40mm Bushnell Trophy Scope on his Parker Hale 300wm rifle, site in the rifle at 27yds and was finally shooting close to bull's eye (within 1"), his shooting patern before adj. to the bull was shooting to the left of Bull, after this yardage was adjusted we backed up to 120yds and he ended up consistantly shooting 10" to the left again, so we adjusted scope closer to the bull again (but I now the 27yds will be off). Prior to changing this scope he had a B&L 3-9 which he was able to shoot very close to the Bull at both yds and has shot Moose over 300yds with it.
We traded scopes, He prefered my Bushnell scope for longer range shooting and I preferd his scope for bush hunting. His B&L scope on my 300wsm dial in very easy without any trouble, but the Bushnell is a problem.
Can this scope handle the 300wm recoil? is this scope DOA? or this might be normal at long range fine tuning of this scope will be finer at long range.

Your opinion is appreciated

Mike
 
Its not one I would have recommended. IMHO a 3200 series would be my minimum for a 300WM.
 
Would you think this scope can keep zero on this 300wm? We are really having trouble adjusting this scope compared to the B&L on a my 300wsm.

Mike
 
I use a Trophy on a .50 cal smoker and have not had a problem with it yet after 4 years, 4 deer, and well over 150 shots in which many were 150 grain loads. Reliability I would say yes it will do. I also had a problem similar to yours. Close range good, 100 yards bad. Was not a huge problem, but I went the expensive route and bought another gun. Option 2 was to buy a set of Millet rings, as they are adjustable for windage so you don't bottom out your scope. Just from my observations and hope this may help a little.
 
Sorry for S...id questions.

What happens when you dial the cross hair one direction all the way to the end does the cross hair stop moving and so does the dial stop turning, like a worm gear or does cross return to oposite side and continuse.
 
From previous experiences, it stops. From my similar experiences like yours as mentioned earlier I rethought what I did last year. I had a heck of a time shimming my scope( another alternative), so I switched ring directions. I had one ring on in each direction. Not sure how others will look at this, but it worked for me. Also I had Weaver rings if it makes a difference?
 
I've thought of that also, what I'm wondering is if the scope wasn't perpendicular to the barrell so when the scope is sighted in close range, at further range its off.??? something to look at. He has shoot through scope mounts.
 
''Can Bushnell Troghy Scope handle 300wm recoil?''

Not the trophy i bougth 4x12x40 AO, and it was on a 243. Never could get real accuracy with this scope and the POI was shifting with magnification.

I'll never buy another Korea/Chinese junk again!

No problem with your B&L it is Japan made.

Best optics are made in Japan Germany and USA.
 
I'm wondering is if the scope wasn't perpendicular to the barrell so when the scope is sighted in close range, at further range its off.???
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You Sir, have hit the nail right on the head.

He has shoot through scope mounts.
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With shoot through mounts you do not get a good cheek weld on the stock. How can you be sure your eye is in the same place every time. This, and the scope is now even higher then the axis of the bore, are the reasons I dislike shoot through mounts.
Of course this is just my opinion, some people love the see throughs and would not use anything else.

Now back to the question of "is the scope up to the job".
If you get the rifle shooting where you want and the POI stays the same, Yes. :D
If it starts to wander, NO, but you won't really know this until you start to miss your target. :oops:

I have a Leupold VXll 3x9 on my .300 WM. Sight it in every year before moose season. hits the same place everytime and I have not touched the knobs in 10 years.
 
Hi All,

I figure before I conclude that the scope in inacurate I need to exhaust all options.

This afternoon we will take a good look at rings scope to barrel alignment and while the rifle is a vise, so there's no rifle movement, I will adjust the mag from 4x to 12x and see if the cross hair stays and does drift and adjust the alignment (which I think is the real issue) before we waist more shell.

I totally agree that Leupold. Burris and elite scope are way superior products but $ is always a problem.

Thanks kindly for feedback and value all your opinions

Cheers




Thanks for all the comments
 
If you want to check scope to barrel alignment, a quick way to do so is to run a string from the front sight along the barrel to the rearmost base screw. All screws along this line should line up perfectly. If they do, you have a scope/ring problem.
 
He has shoot through scope mounts.
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My past experience has shown that these ring/mount systems generally do not line up true to the receiver and thus the bore of the rifle, making the scope slightly off centre and also higher line of sight above bore as had been pointed out. This in turn forces the scope to be bottomed either for windage or elevation.
If you can get away from using the irons, go to either a 2 piece Leupold/Redfield or the one piece for the rifle. The base allows for windage.
Just my .02
 
Get an Elite 3200 if you're on a budget. Whole different ballgame than the Trophy series. It'll take the .300 Win Mag recoil, no problem. One .50 cal BMG sniper rifle manufacturer in the US includes a 3200 with their Tac Pack!

I just mounted an Elite 3-9X50mm 3200 on a friend's Remington 700 LSS in .300 RUM for him. I bore sighted it, was on the paper and had it dialed in after only 3 rounds. We shot another 60 between the two of us. No change in the point of impact, scope was still solid, most importantly, nothing broke! :D The RUM is a pure beast without a muzzle break and makes the .300 Win Mag look like a pussycat by comparison.

Get rid of the headaches, and get yourself a quality Bushnell, or look at the lower end Leupolds such as the VX-1 and VX-II lines.

I've used Leupold one piece bases and rings to good effect. However, I will be slowly converting to picatinny rail bases and TPS rings for most of my "goto" hunting/precision rifles.

I also read recently in a hunting mag that the new Weaver Grand Slam steel bases are supposed to be of a stronger design than the turn in Leupold and Redfields. The Grand Slams and a set of Burris Zee or Sig rings sounds like a good combo for any hunting rifle!
 
trophy vs recoil 300 win mag

The trophy will take the recoil ok, although it has other drawbacks in my opinion. If it's what you can afford or have access to, it will work, don't expect the paralax to be great at ranges over 250m and probably less. The main thing to worry about, are decent mounts, keeping them square and rock solid on the rifle. A lot of perfectly good scopes get a bad rep because of improper mounting or inadequte mounting. I won't embellish on this anymore, don't want to steal your thread. :D bearhunter
 
Hi All

Thanks for the good comments and feedback,

I returned friday with my Uncle range and installed his B&L 3x9 elite 3000 back on his rifle, this scope sighted in with 3 rounds at 27yrds than he took another shot at 120yds and got it in the bull that the way its supose to be adjusted.

The conclusion I think this used 4x12 Trophy scope that was on the rifle I purchased was defective. I'm going to return this scope to the store were I purchased it and will get a few $ and I will get ether VX1 2x7 Leupold or elite 3200 2x7 for my Ruger 300wsm, I think I will go with the Leupold.

All this F...in around and 3.5 box's of shells , Oh well chalk one up for experience. Its to bad my uncle heart was set on this 4x12 scope when the time come I will afto find hime a scope with more mag so he can see those Moose on the other side a the marsh.

Thanks

Mike
 
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