Ya I know, easy for him to talk big when he lives in a province that allows a transfer without club membership. Give a CFO in a different province a call and see how your attitude goes over. I know some people in ontario think that's all there is to Canada but there really are other provinces too. If one of us calls up our CFO and tries raising #### about club membership, all we're likely to accomplish is to get red flagged for searches and delay transfers. Like I said, unless you want to foot the legal bill to take it to provincial supreme court like they had to in NB, you have made as much of a point as you are going to. Doesn't matter if it's law or if it's right or wrong, it's the way it is and like has been shown in NB, people saying it's wrong doesn't make a difference. They required to be forced by the courts.
Can I buy restricted from Marstar before joining a club?
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Ya I know, easy for him to talk big when he lives in a province that allows a transfer without club membership. Give a CFO in a different province a call and see how your attitude goes over. I know some people in ontario think that's all there is to Canada but there really are other provinces too. If one of us calls up our CFO and tries raising #### about club membership, all we're likely to accomplish is to get red flagged for searches and delay transfers. Like I said, unless you want to foot the legal bill to take it to provincial supreme court like they had to in NB, you have made as much of a point as you are going to. Doesn't matter if it's law or if it's right or wrong, it's the way it is and like has been shown in NB, people saying it's wrong doesn't make a difference. They required to be forced by the courts.
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Sigh... you miss the POINT
MEMBERSHIP is NOT required in C-68.. and that is FEDERAL.. that applies to us all.. ALL of the CFO's as well... regardless of what province.
So instead of whining.. stand up and fight back.. en masse!
And it DOES matter since it is not LAW... grow a set and help haul the CFO's on the carpet for their BS "policy" which is not law.
If you and everyone else does not fight back and continues with such drivel.. you deserve to LOOSE YOUR GUNS which is what will end up happening.
Honestly.. talk about apathetic BS
:madWith that attitude.. turn in your guns now... or you might as well do so since you have no fight in you it would appear.
Oh and as for
Oh please..
What what point in ANY of my posts have I ever said anything even close to that load of BS.
In fact I have consistently done the opposite.. sure there are some like that.. but they are NOT the majority by any means and the BS prejudice of that sort is yet another problem in Canada.. be it that statement about Ontario etc.. or those #####ing about Quebec.. etc etc.. we are all CANADIAN.
We are GUN OWNERS in Canada.. get off your BS segregation soap box and get in the fight... or just stfu. Divisional BS like that does no one any good at all... other than the anti's
Oh shalimar, you still don't get it do you. In a perfect world where things actually work the way you present them to, I would agree with you on all your points. But in the real world it don't matter whether it's law, policy, right or wrong. It's happening and the only thing that will stop the CFO from doing it is being forced by the courts. Take off those rose colored glasses, people are not going to rise up en masse over this issue. We have to first get rid of the LGR before we can motivate enough gun owners to help out us restricted firearms owners. Us restricted firearm owners had to jump through enough hoops to get the RPAL, most of us have more important issues in our lives and decide to jump through that one extra hoop to keep the CFO off our backs. It's going to take someone to put their ass and tens of thousands of dollars on the line to take this to court. And success or fail, deal with the political ramifications. So if you want to wire 10 G's my way I'll call a lawyer and get the ball rolling. If not, maybe you should be the one who stfu. You talk so big about this here on the forum, what are you doing to fight it? I'll give you a hint, complaining on a web board does not count as fighting nor does sitting their being pleased with yourself for not having to get a club membership. I'm not going to keep arguing the same point back and forth in this thread with you shalimar so if you want to respond to this I won't be back in this thread to read it.
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I get it.. and if you had been paying attention you would know I am NOT playing by their rules.. I am playing politics.. and I have no mercy there.
Fact is if even 1000.. a measily 1000 of us in Bantario did exactly as I have done now they would s**t their pants. If 10,000 did so they would have a corinary.
Get the point???
It is not about their policy... it is using the BS laws they have in place against them... using their own BULLs**t against them
I dunno about you... but I suffered enough BS from my ex-wife for a lifetime... nevermind the idea of bending over and getting ass f**ked by the CFO and their "policy"
I aim to fight.. and I don't back down..
Can you say the same?? Or have you grown a set yet?
Maybe if more people did we wouldn't even have to have this conversation..
Trust me when I say everyone that knows me knows this... you piss me off and WW3 would be nice compared to what I can do.
And I'm only annoyed so far. But I am not aiming for a simple sparring session.
There is a reason why my wife calls me an a**hole... and asshat.. a stubborn son of a #####.. and other endearing terms.
Oh and putbull amongst them all...
I'm ont PC.. I'm not making friends... this is a fight.. and I am NOT here to iss Wendy's ass and have f**king tea.
So.. are you on her side... are you an arm chair quarterback... or do you actually have what it takes to stand up and fight??
Nothing personal... but I sure as hell am not the latter... nor the middle..
I'm po'd @ the BS... and I'm out for "blood" so to speak.
I am however more than well versed in playing politics... only I don't kiss ass. I play dirty since that gets results.
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Your loss.. same as all the other apathetic wussies not willing to get up and fight for what is rightfully theirs..
Ok fine.. turn in your guns NOW since you cannot fight back... or should I say WILL NOT
Like I don't have a life besides cgn????
Sorry to disappoint but I do... but I unlike many others do NOT back down from a fight when I know I am right.. can you say the same esp after that last post??
Oh and while you won't be back to read it... You'll be around to enjoy the effects thereof when I and others like me WIN this fight... for ourselves and everyone else.
Sadly by your last post you are counted among though doomed to give up their guns and be enslaved to those whom fight for the other side..... how sad..
Nothing personal... but honestly.. if we don;t all band together.. grow a pair what else is stopping a repeat of history.... which as "predicted" would be sad indeed...
It is the Soldier: Not the minister Who gave us freedom of religion. Not the reporter Who gave us freedom of the press. Not the poet Who gave us freedom of speech. Not the campus organizer Who gave us freedom to protest Not the lawyer Who gave us the right to a fair trial. Not the politician Who gave us the right to vote It is the soldier who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag, Whose coffin is draped by the flag, Who allows protesters to burn the flag - Adapted from Charles M. Province
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Legislation rarely spells out all the operational procedures under a law. It in the case of this section of the CFA , 27 , it enables the CFO to excercise discretion...effectively to make "law".
When Sec 27 authorizes the CFO to..
(c) decide whether to approve the transfer and inform the Registrar of that decision; and
it permits the CFO to turn down a transfer on any reasonable basis. If the lack of membership in a range made the CFO believe that transfer was not for a legitimate purpose , then the individuals only recourse would be to appeal it to a judge....and the judge would then weigh the two sides of the argument....after considerable time and expense...
To say that because it does not specifically state in the legislation that one needs a range affiliation , it must mean one doesn't need it is incorrect.
When Sec 27 authorizes the CFO to..
(c) decide whether to approve the transfer and inform the Registrar of that decision; and
it permits the CFO to turn down a transfer on any reasonable basis. If the lack of membership in a range made the CFO believe that transfer was not for a legitimate purpose , then the individuals only recourse would be to appeal it to a judge....and the judge would then weigh the two sides of the argument....after considerable time and expense...
To say that because it does not specifically state in the legislation that one needs a range affiliation , it must mean one doesn't need it is incorrect.
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Sorry but again that is not true... the CFO's cannot make law. The law as it stands now does not state at all that a range membership is mandatory.. Therefore by law it is not regardless of what BS the CFO's spew
I for one am calling them on it... and everyone else should be doing the same.
