Can I take my friend on a hunting trip?

[canadian_hunter]

Hi, I have a PAL and a valid hunting license... Was thinking of taking my friend with me on a hunting trip for some grouse.. Thing is, he doesn't have neither licenses... Can he still carry 1 of my rifles, and hunt, all under my supervision?

Thanks,

Al

 

[maynard]

Short answer-Nope.
If you read the hunting regulations for Ontario it is illegal to even take your kid out hunting. Even if he was walking with you carrying a dead grouse the MNR would consider him hunting.
I understand there is also a new regulation in Ontario that steel shot must be used on grouse.

 

[mahony1977]

Dont know if its the same in other provinces but in que you can call the cfc and request a probationary hunting license. Its valid for one year as long as you are accompanied by someone with their licenses .

 

[dudu]

=maynard;1666305]Short answer-Nope.
If you read the hunting regulations for Ontario it is illegal to even take your kid out hunting. Even if he was walking with you carrying a dead grouse the MNR would consider him hunting

HUNTIN
Includes lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing,
chasing or shooting at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed,
injured, captured or harassed. You need a hunting licence to do any of
these things, except where the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act states
otherwise.

Excerpt from:
http://publicdocs.mnr.gov.on.ca/View.asp?Document_ID=10734&Attachment_ID=20631

I understand there is also a new regulation in Ontario that steel shot must be used on grouse.

http://publicdocs.mnr.gov.on.ca/View.asp?Document_ID=10735&Attachment_ID=20632
This is the Ontario Small Game Regulation page. I could not find anything related to what you say.

Could you please let us know where to find the new regulations?

 

[bill c68]

The PAL thing is not an issue, a hunting license would be required.

 

[dudu]

=maynard;1666305]Short answer-Nope.
I understand there is also a new regulation in Ontario that steel shot must be used on grouse.

Question 66:

I have a question regarding the possesion of lead shot while primarily hunting waterfowl. Where We hunt, there is a 2-3 km hike from the road to the marsh. Ruffed Grouse are numerous in this area, so I am used to taking a pair of LEAD 7.5s along with my STEEL 3" 2s and 4s. It is apparent to anyone who is familiar with this area that grouse are often seen on the trail, and many are flushed while we travel to the marsh. Sometimes grouse are even seen along the edges of the marsh, and offer potential shots while we are close to our blind.

Would we be contravening the laws by chambering a 'grouse load' while it is obvious (camo, chest waders, duck calls etc.) that we are primarily hunting waterfowl? What about having them in our possesion?

Asked September 15, 2000

Answer from the MNR

Absolutely! You simply cannot possess or use lead shot while hunting for waterfowl. I can only suggest that you may want to chamber a lighter steel load if you feel that you may have some pass shooting opportunities for upland game birds. There is certainly nothing restricting you from using steel shot on these birds.

This is the closest I could get to your statement.

 

[dudu]

=maynard;1666305]Short answer-Nope.
If you read the hunting regulations for Ontario it is illegal to even take your kid out hunting. Even if he was walking with you carrying a dead grouse the MNR would consider him hunting.

Question 26:

I am 20 years old and from a family of non-hunters, but I enjoy hunting of all kinds. I don't have many other people to go out deer hunting with, and since it is dangerous to go alone my dad often comes with me for company. He doesn't have a hunting license, but he enjoys being with me, and dresses in orange just to be safe. We were told that is illegal for him to do this and he can be charged with illegal hunting even if isn't carrying a gun? How can this be? Aren't crown lands open for everyone to use, not just hunters during hunting season? How can he be charged for simply walking around in the bush with me?

Asked on November 22/99

Answer from the MNR:

This practice is absolutely legal if the non-hunter does not actively participate in the hunt. Let me give you a couple of scenarios to explain this:

a) in our hunt camp we have a member who is a non-hunter. On occasion, he goes out with one of the 'doggers', walking alongside him and talking photographs. This is perfectly legal as he is not an integral part of the chase. Equally legitimately, he sometimes sits on a watch with another hunter (only one gun) and takes photos, visits, etc.

b) in the same scenario, if the non-hunter decided that he wanted to walk by himself in the same general area and thus function as an additional 'dogger', then that would mean he is now meeting the definition of "hunt" and would need a licence.

Clearly, anyone can simply walk around on crown (or private, with permission) land but once there is any indication that they are actively involved in 'chasing, pursuing, in search of,…" then they are liable to the requirement for a hunting licence and may be charged if they do not have one - whether or not they have a firearm!

This is the closest I could get to your statement.

 

[dudu]

=maynard;1666305]Short answer-Nope.
If you read the hunting regulations for Ontario it is illegal to even take your kid out hunting. Even if he was walking with you carrying a dead grouse the MNR would consider him hunting.

I could even take them fishing while I hunt:

Question 16:

Is it legal to fish while at the same time you are hunting. This would specifically refer to duck hunting out of a blind or while anchored (obviously not while under power). Is it legal to have a fishing line in the water while waiting on the next flock of ducks to appear? Years ago I was told by two separate CO's ... two different answers (1 yes, 1 no). Furrther, what if two people are in the boat, 1 hunting (only 1 gun in boat) and the other is fishing (only one fishing rod in the boat) ... would this be legal?

Asked on October18/99

Answer from the MNR:

Yes you may fish and hunt at the same time in the circumstances as described. And yes, it would certainly be legal for two individuals in a boat to be one angler and one hunter - or even to, in the circumstances as described above, both hunt and fish. What you need to avoid doing is having a loaded firearm in a powerboat in circumstances other than those described above (stationary blind).