Canadian marked Winchesters and Remingtons?

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I have seen a number of c1914 made M1892 and 1894 Winchesters and 14 1/2 Remingtons with the crossed pennants DCP stamp on the barrel. I have read and heard variously they were meant for the Canadian home guard, police forces, the prison service or even inspected by Canadians in the US for the Royal Navy. Does anyone know the real story?
 
30-30's were issued to the Pacific coast rangers I have one of these rifles .the men could purchase them from the Gov't after the war .mine came from the son of the man it was issued to .the gent paid $5.00 for it at wars end .
 
The above arms I have observed have no British property, proof (commercial or military), unit or other marks to show that they were ever in British service which would be exceptional if they were in British service. The Cdn Ross rifles that went to the RN were marked. I believe these arms never left Canada.
 
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The above arms I have observed have no British property, proof (commercial or military), unit or other marks to show that they were ever in British service which would be exceptional if they were in British service. The Cdn Ross rifles that went to the RN were marked. I believe these arms never left Canada.
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TonyE is a VERY knowledgable source (you are probably familiar with some of his books). I would re-read his posting on "gunboards".

According to his post, the guns would have been accepted into the BRITISH military system BY the Canadian inspectors at the Remington plant/shipping facility.

As the Canadian Military inspectors (were deemed to be British) had the same power as his equivilent Brit, they would have been accepted as such. Therefore in some? cases the guns would only show "Canadian" markings.

I too have observed the Remington model 14s & Winchester 1892s in .44-40 which exhibit the DCP proof.

I was also given the penitentary story regarding the Remingtons...
 
Winchester apparently has no records of these rifles produced between 43 and 48...you can check the serial #s and get more info. armscollector.com and pan down L/H side to winchester.
 
"not english make" was part of the British commercial proof marks.
Observed PCMR M94s are in the 1300000-1341000 range.
 
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I have a Saddle Ring Carbine Win 94 made in 1914, " Crossed flags, DCP proofed". Which according to my info was a Canadian Rangers rifle. This is the third rifle in that year range that I have seen. anyone else out there with a 1914 SRC with DCP stamps just behind the rear sight?

Regards

Peter
 
The 1914 M94s and 92s DCP stamped were not Ranger issue. Rangers were established in 1942. One theory is that they were the ones inspected by Canadian inspectors for Britain and issued in the UK to British forces. If this was the case they would have other British property, issue and commercial proofs like other arms from this period.I believe the DCP stamped arms were purchased by Canada for use in Canada and are a seperate lot from the Canadian inspected British purchase.
 
green said:
The 1914 M94s and 92s DCP stamped were not Ranger issue. Rangers were established in 1942. One theory is that they were the ones inspected by Canadian inspectors for Britain and issued in the UK to British forces. If this was the case they would have other British property, issue and commercial proofs like other arms from this period.I believe the DCP stamped arms were purchased by Canada for use in Canada and are a seperate lot from the Canadian inspected British purchase.
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No British proof marks on the rifle. My source is reliable on the use of DCP marked SRC. I agree that these were most likely used for military use.

Rocky Mountain Rangers date back to 1900. Check out this regiments.org site. This shows the succession of the Rocky mountain Rangers and some other units also using that title.

http://w w w.regiments.org/regiments/na-Canada/volmil/bc-inf/102Rocky.htm

Regards

Pete
 
Rocky Mountain Rangers was a Militia unit and would have been equiped as such.
Pacific Coast Militia Rangers was a Home Guard/Coast Watch regiment established in 1942 in BC and disbanded 1945.. They were issued M94s in the 1,300,000-1,341,000 range , M64s , Marlin 336 and other arms. The M94 appears on the regt cap badge. See canadiansoldiers.com and navalandmilitarymuseum.org
 
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