Canted BUIS?

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I just saw these in an e-mail from SureFire... Interesting concept; not sure how well the concept adapts to the real world though...



http://www.surefire.com/DD-RTS-SET?...medium=email&utm_campaign=RTS_Consumer_012711

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Knight's has something similar. The ones I've tried vary in comfort/ergonomics heavily based on the stock you have on your gun.

Nice that you don't have to flip anything up/down, and not dependent on your main optic being QD. Doesn't work when shooting lefty/support side, also won't work with certain prone positions. Also semi-requires that you either use a thumb brake type grip, or grip close to the magwell. If you hold a VFG in your fist, it can be hard to torque it all into place.
 
From an armchair perspective, I think their reasoning for this type of sight transitioning from scope to iron is flawed.

Why wouldn't a proper scope work as well at closer distances? If it doesn't, twist a few knobs, or flip a few levers and it's gone. Too close, maybe open your eyes to where you're shooting and forget the sights altogether.

A gimmick, another answer to a non existing problem. Though I'm sure someone will buy it, I can't see it being successful with sales.
 
it has its good points......I will try it out might just be a cats a$$ for a SPR rifle
 
easy said:
From an armchair perspective, I think their reasoning for this type of sight transitioning from scope to iron is flawed.

Why wouldn't a proper scope work as well at closer distances? If it doesn't, twist a few knobs, or flip a few levers and it's gone. Too close, maybe open your eyes to where you're shooting and forget the sights altogether.
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Maybe the glass is damaged? Mount is damaged? 'flipping a few levers' takes a LOT longer than simply canting your gun 30 degrees.

The advantage this system has is two main points:
1) You don't have to do anything other than cant the rifle. No buttons, flipping, twisting, etc.
2) You can use it even if the glass on your optic is damaged so badly you can't see the front sight, making cowitness setups worthless.
 
If you're in a situation where fiddling with your optics would take too long, I could see this having some use. Also if you're using something mounted with higher power optics, but have to do something close range like clear a room, it might be more useful than trying to do it under 3-4x magnification, or shooting instinctively.

From what I remember seeing in a SHOT Show video, it seems to see some use in 3-gun, where you're trying to do things as quickly and efficiently as you can, and fussing with knobs is a sure way to burn up time.
 
I don't know,

I understand what they were going for, but I feel like if I was going to be doing close quarters shooting, I would want a compact red dot on a canted mount rather then a set of Iron Sights. Irons are a lot slower to transition to then a red dot in my opinion.
 
I think an offset RDS is superior, no? A little pricier, but I can't imagine trying to get decent cheekweld under stress with a canted weapon to line up the front and rear on the proper plane.

Red dot on target - BANG.
 
canucklehead said:
I think an offset RDS is superior, no? A little pricier, but I can't imagine trying to get decent cheekweld under stress with a canted weapon to line up the front and rear on the proper plane.

Red dot on target - BANG.
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RDS would be better as long as it doesn't run out of batteries and it's on when you need it. Those two areas are probably were irons would have an edge.
 
Agent Law said:
RDS would be better as long as it doesn't run out of batteries and it's on when you need it. Those two areas are probably were irons would have an edge.
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With aimpoints having battery life measured in YEARS, it's unlikely. Especially if you're talking about gaming and not combat. Even then, offset irons seem stupid - especially since they are so freekin expensive for what you get (IMHO).
 
It's to transition from long to short range.

We have a few products in stock for this as well. Basically you have a long range scope mounted then a red dot offset.

Knights Offset Micro Mount, Cadex Red Dot/Flashlight mount.

I've seen one or two guys do it with the NEA railed barrel clamp as well.
 
LMT showed this at the 2010 SHOT Show... it was an "idea" they were floating at the time and the response was huge. They built a number and tested them late last year and officially released it at SHOT this year... just starting to ship now.

Called the "Quick Fire Sight System (QFSS)" (Part #LMT-L8C) we expect them to arrive later this month.

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We know that when it comes time to use your weapon, failure is not an option. That's why we have developed a Quick Fire Sight System (QFSS) to meet mission specific needs. Whether deployed as a sniper, or engaged in close quarter battle, our QFSS will serve as a back-up reflex optic to engage targets that are too close to employ your longer range weapon optic or to augment close quarter battle with your primary weapon while using the two eyes open method of sighting. The kit includes: Primary base assembly to accomodate the Insight MRDS Adapter and shroud for the Leupold Delta Point Adapter and shroud for the Trijicon RMR Adapter plate for the Aimpoint Micro T-1 Adapter and shroud to accomodate the Docter Reflex Sight and Burris Fastfire II.​
 
Cool - but not really 'new' is it? Also, seems kinda pointless to ship it with adapters for 6 different sights isn't it? Considering 5 of them will be sitting in your parts bin? I'm guessing that will add a bit to the cost.

I'm still itchin to try out my KAC offset sight and T1 combo... but doesn't make much sense when I have a 1-4 optic. :)
 
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